<p>@dowzerw, how were you able to do that? did ur D have actual mental issues she got help for? yep, i agree, marquette seems negligent here. they only tell you are being kicked out at the very end without any advanced warning? i also thought after one semester you are put on probation and can bring your grades up the next semester and then are kicked out if you don’t after the year.</p>
<p>go to the school, any good advisor no any half way far advisor would have never let that schedule fly in the first place a biology and chemistry lecture/lab combo hell no!! With Stats and english, you had way, way too much on your plate as entering freshmen,</p>
<p>maybe English
Biology (lecture/lab section)
maybe Stats–which is a summer school class) usually a lot easier
one other elective requirement
and a class that you like and will enjoy
that should have gave you 12-15 hours semster wise and a good start</p>
<p>go back and talk with the school, your advisor and the financial aid office etc…cover all the bases here-----now granted I graduated grad school 25 years ago but this should have never happened and the school was negligent and irresponsible for signing off on that schedule.</p>
<p>Dear Collegeflunkie,
Perhaps looking at a bigger picture might help. Did you really want to go to this school? Did you enjoy going to classes? Do you know what you want to major in or do you want to take requisites to see what you are interested in? Did you make some friends in the classes you attended and talked with them about the course contents and the tests? Do you enjoy college life to the extend that you would be willing to pay for it yourself?
Perhaps these are also subjects you can raise with your parents when you sit down with them and tell them what is going on in your life - and then maybe you can together come up with a plan of action.</p>
<p>"We had this conversation with our daughter today. We found out about her grades, because we knew they had been posted and she was stalling, so we knew something was not right. We sat down at the table and had a straightforward conversation. She failed 2 out of 4 classes. She had withdrawn from another. "</p>
<p>See there is something wrong with this picture. Why does it take until the end of the quarter/semester? By mid-terms she likely knew her grades were bad and weren’t getting better. Don’t kid yourself, she was stalling for a lot longer than you think. </p>
<p>Generally, getting a failing or a bad grade in a course is not a huge suprise you only find out about when final grades get posted. From the OP’s post, it sounds like she thought just attending class was enough to cut it. Wrong! This isn’t highschool anymore and she likely found out by the first exam/grade. That is when you change your habbits/actions, not after final grades get posted. </p>
<p>"Don’t let Marquette off the hook here. They are being paid to prepare you for college and it’s absolutely unacceptable for a school to take your money, let a freshman flounder and then just notify you that you’re not to return for the next semester. Unless there’s a lot more communication here that you haven’t told us about, I would definitely feel as a parent that the school is negligent. "</p>
<p>I completely disagree. This statement removes all responsibility from the student. It is the student’s job to prepare for college. It is the college’s job to give you the resources to succeed. Thousands of students at terrific colleges fail out every year and it is not because the college is negligent. Nothing makes me think that the college failed in their job here. </p>
<p>“let a freshman flounder and then just notify you that you’re not to return for the next semester.”</p>
<p>My guess is that the OP does not have the full story and she will be able to appeal. Also, this information is likely easily accessible on the college’s website and may even have been emailed and/or mailed to the student multiple times throughout the year. Even if the information is not on the website, it is the student’s responsibility to talk with his/her counselor and figure this stuff out. There is only so much stuff a school can do.</p>
<p>But isn’t life easier, Whatdidyou, if we can blame others for our shortcomings? (re post 84)
Isn’t it better when someone else can “hold your hand” and guide a person through every step? Do you expect people to stand on their own feet, and/or be proactive to find solutions Whatdidyou?</p>
<p>There was a class my D was very concerned about all term. She told me about her concerns the first month. It looks like it turned out ok, but she was sweating it until the final percentages were posted today. That professor curves significantly so she doesn’t know the final letter grade, but the percentage is close enough to assume she passed the class. She did have two classes that had no grades until the final project though. She was unsure about those but felt like she was doing alright. She was correct in her self assessment. </p>
<p>I agree with Whatdidyou when she says the college’s responsibility is to provide the resources. It is up to the student to use all of the resources available to succeed. The school cannot do it for them.</p>
<p>Unless you have a documented mental disability you haven’t mentioned, your grades have little to do with your ability. I would estimate that at least 1 in 5 college freshmen are not ready for college (for a variety of reasons) just looking at average freshmen retention rates. </p>
<p>Speaking from personal experience, getting dropped by your school is not the worst thing that can happen to you academically. The worst thing that can happen is you successfully appeal and continue having sub-2.0 semesters add up on your transcript and forever **** you in the ***. I wish my first school had kicked me to the curb after my first semester (1.23 to start, ended up with 83 credits at 1.67). </p>
<p>My advice is to stop now, grow up, live life a little bit, figure out who you are and what you really want to do with your life. Failure to popular belief, college is not always the best place for that. I just hope it doesn’t take you ten years to figure out how to succeed like it did for me.</p>
<p>tl;dr It’s ok, stop now, grow up, come back later.</p>
<p>Marquette is a fairly big school (11,000+) and, I guess, expects students to have enough self discipline to guide themselves.</p>
<p>Both of my kids attend(ed) small liberal arts colleges. My older child went to a very academic environment (Grinnell). We never heard anything and she never got midterm grades. My son started at a good LAC and transferred as a junior to a more competitive LAC. Both of his schools posted midterms grades for freshmen and new transfers. His newer school even sent the midterm grades to my husband and myself for his first semester as a transfer.</p>
<p>When students attend orientation, they are typically given a lot of information on where to go when they need help. Most/many professors now use course sites (Blackboard, Saki, Moodle, etc) where the student’s grades are always available to the student. My point with all this information is that it is doubtful this student was completely unaware of her performance in ALL of her classes. </p>
<p>This is a little off topic here but I feel does relate to this IP’s topic. Sometimes students need parental involvement, especially if the parent is financing the education. My son had a lackluster high school career. Prior to starting college, I told him I would not pay for his education unless he granted permission for me to access his records remotely. He was told that a GPA of lower than 2.3 would bring him home to the community college. This may sound Draconian but it worked for us. He has ADHD and social anxiety so his mental health issues, though challenging, were not severe. For parents wrestling with more serious psychological challenges my suggestions may not be good. I have never talked with any of his professors about issues. I simply lurked (with his knowledge) in his grades. Fast forward two years later-he is looking at grad school. I have never seen his account at school #2 other than to see his transcript after he opens it in the computer screen . My son has a great relationship with my husband and myself. He has an active social life at college (small schools are great for the shy) and feels our lurking was fair and helpful during his firstyear</p>
<p>The FERPA privacy act applies only to students who are not claimed as dependents on their parent’s taxes. If a parent wants to know what is going on with their money, they can have access to the student’s records (provided they provide the college with a copy of the 1040 form indicating dependency status of the student). </p>
<p>I agree with the poster above. I hate seeing students continue to dig bigger financial and academic holes for themselves when what they really need is a break in order to figure things out.</p>
<p>I don’t think that is true. Most schools will not grant parents student grades and other private information unless the student consents. Private schools must be different I guess.</p>
<p>Looks like the OP has been grounded from the internet. ;)</p>
<p>No. access for dependents applies to both public and private schools.
Here are links to a variety of state universities on the topic. This is good information for parents to have, I think. It is always nice when the student simply allows access (such as my son does). In case they don’t, parents can access a tax declared dependent that they are funding the education of.</p>
<p>Here’s the rather lengthy federal document:
<a href=“http://www2.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/fpco/pdf/ferparegs.pdf[/url]”>http://www2.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/fpco/pdf/ferparegs.pdf</a></p>
<p>And a couple of public universities:</p>
<p>[Parent</a> Access to Student Information - Office of the University Registrar](<a href=“http://registrar.unc.edu/registration/registration-policies/parent-access-to-student-information-2/]Parent”>http://registrar.unc.edu/registration/registration-policies/parent-access-to-student-information-2/)
<a href=“http://campuspol.chance.berkeley.edu/policies/studentrecdisclosure.pdf[/url]”>http://campuspol.chance.berkeley.edu/policies/studentrecdisclosure.pdf</a></p>
<p>If I were you, in regards to telling your parents, I would make sure that you have a plan for what you’re going to do afterwards if you’re unable to appeal your expulsion. Acknowledge that you have learned from your mistakes and are determined to move forward and just try to be as honest and mature as possible. Good luck!</p>
<p>The main problem I have found with students struggling their first semester of college is their lack of studying in HS. This turns into a problem as they approach their college work.</p>
<p>I would consider withdrawing from your college and starting fresh at another college-not necessarily next term. I had a friend who had a very poor start in his freshman year attaining only a 0.9 GPA and yet he wanted to become a doctor. He knew that he could never bring his GPA up to an acceptable level, so he took off a year. Then he applied to another college as a new freshman w/o informing the school of his previous college attendance, worked his tail off and achieved a stellar academic record. He was accepted into a medical school and is currently practicing medicine.</p>
<p>^ I would not recommend this route as it is unethical and dishonest. If a school you are attending or graduated from finds out about something like this, there could be negative consequences.</p>
<p>I don’t see an ethical or moral problem with post #94</p>
<p>If you’re not asking for credit? transcripts from any previous college are inconsequential and not required. All you need is money and time - and you can start over.</p>
<p>^
That is not true. Med schools, grad schools, other professional schools, and every single undergrad school I’m aware of specifically request transcripts from ALL schools where courses were taken for college credit or above. I’ve never heard of one that did not do this.</p>
<p>Sure - WHEN you’re applying to Med school/grad school - you provide your Undergrad transcripts. But not where you didn’t receive any credit!</p>
<p>Yes, you do! That’s why they say “attended.”</p>
<p>And if you received federal financial aid, including loans, at the first school, it’s criminal.</p>