<p>it almost feels like kathy and desertman are bro+sis! lol kathy's known to make a thread called 'everyone told me pton doesnt prepare you for the future!' and she had an argument with some1 else in that thread</p>
<p>I know, kathy and desertman are like siblings.</p>
<p>Still, to the point, MommyPain, your son seemed like a very strong candidate for Princeton and almost a lock at ND (coincidentally my second choice school). Do you, in all honesty, think that there was something wrong with his application, because most recruited athletes would be in any school with SATs like his.</p>
<p>I want to handle this delicately because the situation is quite interesting (and the same thing could happen to me with both schools!) but there was probably something CLEARLY missing from his app, right? I mean, ND doesn't require SAT IIs and their average score is around a 1400, so getting into ND isn't the same as getting into an Ivy League. Just wondering, because news like that really worries me. </p>
<p>Glad to hear he's doing well at his current school.</p>
<p>You guys are so naive it would be hilarious if you didn't consider yourself Princeton-worthy students. That is sad. Not one of you looked at what I provided. Not one of you looked objectively at the statistics. Someone with a SAT II average under 700 and someone who made the top ten percent by one place should hardly consider themselves a lock at Princeton. In fact, a person like that should consider Princeton a huge reach, not a 'fit.' </p>
<p>Yet you are circle around the wagons, trying to hide the truth behind your fabrications and lies. Sure I was blatant. Sure I didn't try to use flowerly language to hide what I was saying. But what I said was the complete truth, and nobody can deny it. So what do you all do? Oh, that's right, try to attack me, demonize me. If you are all so foolish you can't look at an argument without attacking the messenger, Princeton certainly doesn't deserve you.</p>
<p>very obsessive</p>
<p>desert, it doesn't help in life to be so abusive. The majority of your posts are belligerent and cruel. Yes, the above poster probably doesn't have the greatest chance to get in and one shouldn't view life or college admissions through rose-colored glasses. But we shouldn't look at them with bloodshot eyes either.</p>
<p>That's funny pyro. I ended that first post with "I don't mean to be rude, but to make it seem like your son was wronged here is disingenuous." I don't want to be rude. And I am certainly not abusive. I just speak the truth. If you can't handle it, go back to middle school were the world was full of rainbows and roses.</p>
<p>*I find it quite interesting nobody has come out against MommyPain for lying. Blatantly lying. * She tried to beef up her son's stats so we would all have more sympathy for her poor little son. I don't have sympathy for liars.</p>
<p>wats your problem? I dont understand why do you consider what PR says to be statistics and why should we look at them objectively? You are the one who is nieve to believe that one source can provide you with the all "the answers" and "probable admissions criteria". Why dont you look at what I said before and read the line that said that PR stresses the SAT's so much because they have prep courses for them. But nevermind all that, why are you still posting, we already heard your opinion, your a heartless statistician who doesnt respect other people's feelings. Does it make you feel good to lower the OP by calling her a lier? You should read up on some psychology, read some stuff about displacement...</p>
<p>Gregster-</p>
<p>Funny how you call me "nieve." I'll leave it up to a Princetonian to understand my insinuation. </p>
<p>Furthermore, you somehow claim PR is biased. Sure, make that claim, it only reflects on your own ignorance. But fine, if you think the stats are biased, *I urge you to find ANY OTHER SITE that has different data. ANY at all. * Then we can discuss PR's credibility. </p>
<p>Gregster- does it make you feel good to call me "heartless?" Or does it just make you a hypocrite?</p>
<p>No, it doesn't make me feel good to call MommyPain a liar. But it doesn't feel good to be lied to, does it?</p>
<p>OMG I spelled naive wrong wow. OK now lets analyze your post, how about I quote some of your text: "you someone claim PR is biased"; "I'll leave it up a Princetonian..."; "the stats are bias...". Lets leave those to a fifth grader to understand my insinuation. Instead of focusing on whether or not PR is credible, why dont you find something that shows me that it's a causation that high grades equal admission and not a correlation. No I dont feel good calling you heartless, but it doesnt feel good to see other people who are already hurt to be lowered even more.</p>
<p>(I'm glad you edited your post to fix all your mistakes, however I still have all the quotes in my text.)</p>
<p>Mommypain- thank you for the comfort on Princeton. My parents say the same thing, but at times it becomes difficult to believe them...it's just good to hear it from another source.</p>
<p><em>general observation that the fact that the letters are coming out soon might be putting people on edge</em></p>
<p>Gregster-</p>
<p>And I could have a second-grader pick up on your post, words dont twice (what does that mean?) and lets. It is the button next to the colon. Use it my friend.</p>
<p>And correlation is based on causation. So you don't know what you are talking about.</p>
<p>Alright I'm just in the mood for a flame war, forget the two rounds of reading. And correlation is seperate from causation. You can have a correlation, but a causation requires further proof and experimentation.</p>
<p>Rooster fights are outlawed in this country and are considered to be acts of cruelty.</p>
<p>Gregster-</p>
<p>Are you saying that high grades and SAT scores don't make an applicant more likely to be admitted than if that person had a low GPA and scores?</p>
<p>No, I'm saying that other factors go into the decision and the factors that you mentioned are only one part of the process. To say that someone with mediocore grades, or to even have a "Princeton standard or avg" is not correct since grades are not the total decision, nor such a significant contributer that they (to a certain extent) accept or reject someone.</p>
<p>Gregster-</p>
<p>You are so ignorant I am literally laughing. Colleges care most about GPA/class rank. Anyone will admit that. You go to college to continue your education. It makes sense that your decision will be based on what your proven with the education you've already had. Someone with a 3.6 is going to have a FAR FAR worse chance at acceptance than practically all of the others who apply with 4.0s.</p>
<p>desertman - I'm not saying that your above posts have no basis in truth. I'm saying that if you look over the posts you've made, both on this thread and the board in general, the majority of them have been snide, mocking and unecessarily vicious. Even if you have intelligent things to say, saying them really spitefully will not make people listen to you.</p>
<p>You are so blind I am literally laughing. Did I say anywhere that scores arent important, or is that what you expected me to say and thus did not read my post well? If Ivies only accepted 4.0's and only 4.0's applied, we would have a totally different set of Ivy league colleges. As much as flame wars are fun, I feel that this thread is losing its original point, so if you prefer to continue be my guest, I just wont respond since clearly you arent reading my posts and only looking for spelling errors or writing in hyperbolies for me.</p>
<p>Direct quote from you:</p>
<p>"To say that someone with mediocore grades, or to even have a "Princeton standard or avg" is not correct since grades are not the total decision, ** nor ** such a significant contributer that they"</p>
<p>Your poor grammar makes it hard to fully understand what you are saying.</p>
<p>That isnt poor grammar, it's style, but this is my last post here so whatever.... (again focusing on the post text instead of what I am saying).</p>