<p>Hey, so I've been told that EECS is easier to be admitted to than CS in the L&S college. Also i've been told that in general CS is a harder major than EECS. Is this true? It seems like it isn't but I'm just wondering.</p>
<p>What? How would CS be a generally harder major or harder to get into...the COE is on average a lot harder to get into.</p>
<p>If this is a serious post, that's fine, but I am skeptical. Maybe I am not aware of how CS in L&S works, but EECS seems like it'd be harder to get into. </p>
<p>A lot of the CS classes will be the same as EECS courses, so I think the difficulty shouldn't be the primary consideration. Honestly to me, the best thing about CS L&S for those who're in it is that you are doing <em>CS</em> - fewer other requirements. On the other hand, you'll have L&S's breadth requirements, though these can be taken pass-notpassed.</p>
<p>It's almost the reverse of what you're told. CS is not a harder major than EECS, it's comparable. If you're going the CS route in EECS, it's almost the same save for a few courses.</p>
<p>CS in L&S: More humanities requirements (L&S breadth requirements), no physics series, don't have to take Math 53 (Multivariable Calc)</p>
<p>CS route in EECS: More physics, math</p>
<p>Also, all EECS students will have to take EE20 and EE40, while I believe for L&S CS you just have to take EE42, which is supposed to be easier than EE40.</p>
<p>"Also, all EECS students will have to take EE20 and EE40, while I believe for L&S CS you just have to take EE42, which is supposed to be easier than EE40."</p>
<p>I've heard this too, though honestly, I'd not make this the deciding factor =] I mean, if you think the EECS major is a great fit, chances are the classes you take will make you think, but not kill you too badly if you're really upto either CS or EE. If not, I think L&S's program is slightly tamer.</p>
<p>Honestly though, I know people who do L&S CS who do quite a bit with their schedules (for instance, double with math -- some I had class with).</p>
<p>I have a more intricate argument as to why CS is harder than EECS:
CoE requires 12 units minimum whereas L&S requires 13 units minimum; because CS is a technical major, most of the courses we take a tech courses (4 units and work-intensive). In CoE, you can get away with taking just 3 tech courses, but in L&S, you need a 13th unit. Whether it is a 1 unit decal or another 4 unit course, because of the 13th unit, L&S CS schedules amount to more work than a 3 course schedule EECS schedule. </p>
<p>Of course, most people just take 16 units anyway, and given that, L&S CS doesn't have as many killer EE courses. Most people in L&S CS, as mathboy89 mentioned, intend to do something else alongside CS. I intended to double-majoring in math and CS, but not anymore (oh hell no). I'm looking at maybe EPS double...</p>
<p>How is the upper division coursework w/ eecs and cs?</p>
<p>As far as upper division courses are concerned, you'll be taking the same CS courses (if you decide to go the CS path in EECS). However, with EECS you have to take 2 upper-division "humanities & social sciences" courses (it's part of the H&SS requirement for CoE; you have to take 6 H&SS courses, 2 upper-div, 2 meeting series requirement, and at least 2 in the same department, one of which has to be upper-div).</p>
<p>So how much upper division do i have to take with CS? If I were to compare them, which one would probably be more difficult?</p>
<p>bump for an answer</p>
<p>All students in L&S (includes Computer Science) need to complete 6 upper division units in a course that is not related to their major. But these do not have to be humanities, so you could get away with taking economics, mathematics, or something more technical if you like. Of course the breadth requirement will force you to take some humanities, but they don't necessarily have to be upper division. (Source</a>)</p>
<p>It's not bad at all, actually. You can just take decals for upper div credit.</p>
<p>What's decals?</p>
<p>DeCal</a> : Welcome!</p>
<p>They're student-run courses you take for P/NP for 1-3 units of credit. Most of them are ridiculously interesting and the colloquial "fun" classes.</p>
<p>so you're saying that I can take ALL decals for upper division? Would it look bad if I am applying for the eecs 5 year B.S/M.S program?</p>
<p>bumping for an answer</p>
<p>Yeah, of course.</p>
<p>So if it is possible to take ALL decals for upper division, then my GPA will only be on my lower division? How will that affect my admission to the 5 year EECS program?</p>
<p>You'll have upper division CS classes.</p>
<p>The EECS five-year program is a freaking scam.</p>
<p>About 50-60 people showed up to this year's infosession. The application is a two-phase process: according to the program director, about half would be invited to a faculty interview, and about half of those interviewed would be admitted. Well, a 25-30% admission rate doesn't sound that bad, right?</p>
<p>Well, I applied and got an interview notification "by accident," (i.e. I didn't make the first cut, but I was wrongly informed that I did) and I found out that there were only 7 slots for interviews. This suggests an acceptance rate far lower than announced at the infosession. Heck, one of my former TAs was admitted last year and apparently only about 2-3 people got in.</p>