# for Joint program?

<p>Anyone has # that around how many ppl apply Penn's joint program? like Huntsman, M&T and so...and I heard ED seems they almost didn't accept anyone to program b/c they are waitting to see the how the regular pool looks like? Is that true?</p>

<p>I am applying M&T. hope what you just said is not true. I am international</p>

<p>I know that Huntsman has roughly 700 applicants and 50 spots. My guess is that they will accept 25 ED and 25 RD.</p>

<p>But don't take my word for it.</p>

<p>What about Jerome Fisher?</p>

<p>The ED/RD rates aren't fixed since the applicant pools are so small. Your chances aren't really different if you apply ED or RD to the joint programs.</p>

<p>why it's the same? I saw the huntsman website said "encourage" do ED,,,but a lot of people told me ED almost admit no one, but they need wait for RD applicants coming</p>

<p>and remember on joint program application said:" due to the...a lot of quanlify students got defer because we need to wait......" or something likely..thats why we could choose to do single school during ED if we sign in the end of joint program application</p>

<p>^^we will be considered for our single school choice only when we are rejected from the joint program??Does that mean we will be evaluated in the RD pool?</p>

<p>I can't understand a single thing that either one of you posts. I have to wonder whether you were able to write legible applications.</p>

<p>Ok, I'll phrase the question. Does anyone know how many people apply to the joint degree programs? If so, what are the ED acceptance rates for those programs? Is it an advantage applying ED because they can only admit so few and would want to wait until the regular round to pick the strongest applicants?</p>

<p>Ok, I'll repeat the same thing that's been said on here a thousand times. They don't release the actual numbers, but it's fewer than you'd think because of self-selectivity among applicants. There's no real advantage to applying ED or RD, because the pools are so small - they know what they're looking for and will find it in either pool. (Besides, the perceived "advantage" to applying early is really just that - "perceived" and applying early or regular to Penn doesn't meaningfully change <em>your</em> chance of getting in. People who know they want to be here apply early, and that helps. People who are strongly qualified are confident about their chances and apply early. You either fit into those pools or you don't, and you'll appear the same in either group. There isn't some magical "boost" that gets added to ED applicants "score"). (Exception: legacy is only considered if you apply early).</p>

<p>Want to get into a dual/joint program? Be qualified (fluent in language for huntsman; strong in math and physics for m&t; demonstrated leadership for both), and demonstrate your interest in the program in your essays. If you know you want to attend Penn (without a doubt) apply early. If you don't, don't.</p>

<p>okay,mattwonder, I should say "i'm sry". english is my 4th language...I only learned it for less than 2 yrs, sorry for causing you problems.
and thx kyzan.</p>

<p>okie one last question about the joint program thing-
can a candidate be accepted to his/her choice single school and be deferred for the program??
sorry if its irritating you mattwonder,but I am really anxious at the moment!</p>