Forbes College rankings 2011-2012

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<p>what do you think about FORBES college ranking 2011-2012?</p>

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<p>I don’t like rankings that put Yale at #14.</p>

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<p>forgot link
[America’s</a> Best Colleges List - Forbes](<a href=“Forbes America’s Top Colleges List 2022”>Forbes America’s Top Colleges List 2022)</p>

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<p>I always thought that Harvard’s #1. What happens to the ranking?</p>

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<p>I divided it like US News does:</p>

<p>Forbes Top 50 Universities</p>

<ol>
<li>Princeton University</li>
<li>Stanford University</li>
<li>Harvard University</li>
<li>University of Chicago</li>
<li>Massachusetts Insitute of Technology</li>
<li>Northwestern University</li>
<li>California Institute of Technology</li>
<li>Yale University</li>
<li>University of Notre Dame</li>
<li>Brown University</li>
<li>Duke University</li>
<li>Boston College</li>
<li>Rice University</li>
<li>Dartmouth College</li>
<li>Tufts University</li>
<li>Columbia University</li>
<li>Emory University</li>
<li>University of Virginia</li>
<li>Georgetown University</li>
<li>College of William and Mary</li>
<li>Cornell University</li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania</li>
<li>Vanderbilt University</li>
<li>University of California - LA</li>
<li>Santa Clara University</li>
<li>University of California - Berkeley</li>
<li>University of North Carolina (Chapel Hill)</li>
<li>Wake Forest University</li>
<li>Boston University</li>
<li>Brandeis University</li>
<li>University of Michigan - Ann Arbor</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon University</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins University</li>
<li>University of Dallas</li>
<li>Pepperdine University</li>
<li>University of Redlands</li>
<li>Washington University in St Louis</li>
<li>Saint Johns University</li>
<li>Trinity University</li>
<li>Loyola University Maryland</li>
<li>Villanova University</li>
<li>Colorado School of Mines</li>
<li>Southern Methodist University</li>
<li>Lehigh University</li>
<li>Clark University</li>
<li>University of California - Davis</li>
<li>University of Rochester</li>
<li>University of Washington - Seattle</li>
<li>Loyola Marymount University</li>
<li>University of Florida</li>
</ol>

<p>Forbes Top 50 LACs</p>

<ol>
<li>Williams College</li>
<li>US Military Academy</li>
<li>Amherst College</li>
<li>Haverford College</li>
<li>US Air Force Academy</li>
<li>Claremont McKenna College</li>
<li>Carleton College</li>
<li>Swarthmore College</li>
<li>US Naval Academy</li>
<li>Wellesley College</li>
<li>Colby College</li>
<li>Pomona College</li>
<li>Vassar College</li>
<li>College of the Holy Cross</li>
<li>Union College</li>
<li>Colorado College</li>
<li>Bates College</li>
<li>Lafayette College</li>
<li>Centre College</li>
<li>Wesleyan University</li>
<li>Whitman College</li>
<li>Bowdoin College</li>
<li>Middlebury College</li>
<li>Scripps College</li>
<li>Kenyon College</li>
<li>Harvey Mudd College</li>
<li>Bucknell University</li>
<li>DePauw University</li>
<li>Bryn Mawr College</li>
<li>Smith College</li>
<li>Sewanee: University of the South</li>
<li>Barnard College</li>
<li>Dickinson College</li>
<li>Hillsdale College</li>
<li>Davidson College</li>
<li>Connecticut College</li>
<li>Lawrence University</li>
<li>St Lawrence University</li>
<li>Virginia Military Institute</li>
<li>Wheaton College</li>
<li>Grinnell College</li>
<li>Skidmore College</li>
<li>Hamilton College</li>
<li>Oberlin College</li>
<li>Wofford College</li>
<li>Rhodes College</li>
<li>Westmont College</li>
<li>St. Olaf College</li>
<li>Knox College</li>
<li>Trinity College</li>
</ol>

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<p>To be honest, Harvard is a really good school with many successes however it it the most overrated school in the world!! Times are changing</p>

<p>And i was surprised that the ivy leagues were on the bottom of the list</p>

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<p>why is washu #37… and bc can’t be better than rice and emory</p>

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<p>I was really happy to see BC up there! Btw, this ranking is not only prestige… It’s also the indebtedness of the students, graduation rates, and salary after graduation.</p>

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<p>Another poster explained the methodology on this thread: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1188930-new-forbes-2012-rankings.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1188930-new-forbes-2012-rankings.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Personally, I think using things like RMP and Who’s Who is pretty inane.</p>

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<p>Berkeley at 70? Is Forbes really trying to attract readers at the point where they put bold rankings in place of true analysis.</p>

<p>Haverford at 7? Maybe for LACs…on the east coast…in philly</p>

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<p>i stopped reading after “ratemyprofessor.com”</p>

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If you look at just the universities, it’s #26 (compare to US New #22). Not so different. It looks like they’re very different, because US News doesn’t combine universities and LACs, and Forbes does.</p>

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Truly, objectivity and reliability at their finest :rolleyes:</p>

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<p>^because Forbes explicitly says they are rating the strength of the undergraduate program…which is only a factor of the USN&WR rankings</p>

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<p>ridiculous… colorado college? most of these colleges i have never even heard of. Berkeley at 70 makes me laugh. But there are so many different college rankings that are based on so many different things. But for overall rankings this is a joke and continues the east coast and private school bias.</p>

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<p>East coast bias? It does have Stanford over Harvard…</p>

<p>Anyway, it is bad, but let’s not pretend that the whole idea of being able to quantify the whole of an institute of higher education into a little number isn’t ridiculous in and of itself.</p>

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<p>Look! College ranking change and what your college might have been a year ago might not be the same as this year. I personally think usnews is worse because it in my opinion ranks based on prestige putting all the “Ivy leagues” up in the list only because they are “name brand”. And rate my proffesor is just the same as interviewing students that attend that colllege on campus. It is pretty realible and almost accurate so that’s no excuse to disaprove of this ranking.</p>

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<p>“And rate my proffesor is just the same as interviewing students that attend that colllege on campus. It is pretty realible and almost accurate so that’s no excuse to disaprove of this ranking.”</p>

<p>No, RMP is nothing like on campus interviews. First of all, RMP couldn’t be more of a self selective and unrepresentative sample. </p>

<p>I do agree with you to some extent that the USN&WR list is somewhat self-perpetuating in the sense that a school’s reputation gives it momentum as far as moving up the list, I believe 20-25% of their ranking is “peer assessment of academic reputation” or something of the like.</p>

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<p>Well, I can speak for Notre Dame in saying that RMP is rarely used there, since we have a separate website for our professor ratings. And unless Forbes knows this, took the time to enroll in Notre Dame, get an @nd.edu email address, register at NDToday, and went through all the rankings to put together an average, they didn’t get very reliable info.</p>

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<p>And even if rate my proffesor was a disadvantage and unreliable way for ranking, all schools were equally “graded” using rate my proffesor meaning all the schools were equally disadvantaged making it insignificant.</p>

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Except for the schools that rarely if ever use RMP…</p>

<p>But why not let Johnny over there rank all the schools for Forbes? Sure, he has no idea what he’s doing, but all of them will be ranked by Johnny, so it ends up being even.</p>