<h1>12 for National Public Universities.</h1>
<h1>50 for National Universities.</h1>
<p>Totaly different methodology used than USNWR which comes out online on Friday.</p>
<p>Biggest winner:
U Alabama- from #42 in USNWR up to #7 in Forbes.</p>
<p>Biggest loser:
UC- San Diego- from #8 in USNWR down to #57 in Forbes (ouch)
Pretty much the entire UC system except Berkley took a hit.</p>
<p>Let the arguments over methodology begin.</p>
<p>I thought Forbes ranked UF at #167?</p>
<p>[Forbes:</a> UF is No. 167 among U.S. colleges | Gainesville.com | The Gainesville Sun | Gainesville, FL](<a href=“http://www.gainesville.com/article/20080815/NEWS/108475751]Forbes:”>http://www.gainesville.com/article/20080815/NEWS/108475751)</p>
<p>All National Universities </p>
<p>Name / CCAP Rank / USNWR Rank </p>
<p>Harvard University /1 / 2 </p>
<p>Yale University / 2 / 3 </p>
<p>Princeton University/ 3 / 1 </p>
<p>University of Chicago /4 / 9 </p>
<p>Brown University / 5 / 14 </p>
<p>Columbia University / 6 / 9 </p>
<p>California Institute of Technology / 7 / 5 </p>
<p>Stanford University / 8 4 </p>
<p>Northwestern University/ 9 / 14 </p>
<p>Dartmouth College / 10 / 11 </p>
<p>Boston College / 11 / 35 </p>
<p>University of Pennsylvania /12 / 5 </p>
<p>Southern Methodist University / 13 / 67 </p>
<p>Cornell University / 14 / 12 </p>
<p>Duke University /15 / 8 </p>
<p>University of Notre Dame /16 / 19 </p>
<p>Massachusetts Institute of Technology / 17/ 7 </p>
<p>Johns Hopkins University / 18/ 14 </p>
<p>Wake Forest University / 19/ 30 </p>
<p>Emory University/ 20/ 17 </p>
<p>Brandeis University / 21/ 31 </p>
<p>University of Virginia/ 22/ 23 </p>
<p>Tufts University / 23/ 28 </p>
<p>Rice University / 24/ 17 </p>
<p>Carnegie Mellon University / 25/ 22 </p>
<p>Georgetown University / 26/ 23 </p>
<p>Samford University / 27/ 118 </p>
<p>University of California-Berkeley / 28/ 21 </p>
<p>University of Rochester / 29/ 35 </p>
<p>University of North Carolina- Chapel Hill / 30/ 28 </p>
<p>Washington University in St. Louis/ 31/ 12 </p>
<p>Tulane University/ 32/ 50 </p>
<p>Vanderbilt University / 33/ 19 </p>
<p>Baylor University / 34/ 75 </p>
<p>New York University / 35/ 34 </p>
<p>College of William & Mary / 36/ 33 </p>
<p>University of California-Los Angeles / 37/ 25 </p>
<p>George Washington University / 38/ 54 </p>
<p>University of Michigan- Ann Arbor / 39/ 25 </p>
<p>Brigham Young University- Provo / 40/ 79 </p>
<p>Case Western Reserve University / 41/ 41 </p>
<p>University of Alabama / 42/ 91 </p>
<p>University of Washington / 43/ 42 </p>
<p>University of Texas- Austin / 44/ 44 </p>
<p>University of Georgia / 45/ 59 </p>
<p>Boston University / 46/ 57 </p>
<p>Syracuse University / 47/ 50 </p>
<p>Fordham University / 48/ 67 </p>
<p>Texas A&M University- College Station / 49/ 62 </p>
<p>University of Florida/ 50/ 49</p>
<p>I can already envision that Gainesville Sun article being used to bash UF even though it appears to be wrong.</p>
<p>Retraction please ASAP???</p>
<p>The article was purelly a hatched job against UF.
People will just read the inflamitory statements and not bother to dig any deeper into that particular list.</p>
<p>[America’s</a> Best Colleges sorted by Rank - Forbes.com](<a href=“Forbes List Directory”>Forbes List Directory)</p>
<p>As examples:</p>
<h1>71 Cornell College in Iowa > # 121 Cornell University in NY.</h1>
<h1>135 Eckerd College > # 167 UF</h1>
<p>AND NOT THAT BEING RANKED # 167 WAS ACTUALLY BAD.
UF’ Company includes:</p>
<h1>155 Illinois</h1>
<h1>167 UF</h1>
<h1>178 Washington</h1>
<h1>199 UC Santa Barbara</h1>
<h1>215 UT Austin</h1>
<h1>256 UC San Diego</h1>
<h1>272 Penn State</h1>
<p>And the biggest laugher of all:
University of Miami- # 417</p>
<p>So the “Best Colleges” ranking includes all academic institutions (with or without graduate schools) in the US while the “Best National Universities” only include institutions with graduate schools?</p>
<p>They have sliced & diced these rankings every conceivable way.
UF is:</p>
<h1>12 for National Public Universities.</h1>
<h1>16 Best Public colleges.</h1>
<h1>50 for National Universities.</h1>
<h1>167 for “all” colleges</h1>
<p>The big list is really not useful at all…because it factors in liberal arts and other useless factors and all that. I mean, New College above UF? Come on. Good thing this list means nothing, as the business rankings are all I care about.</p>
<p>I believe Forbes used ratemyprofessor.com for one of the ranking criteria. What kind of a joke is that?</p>
<p>both USNWR and Forbes are flawed… but at least USNWR has some quantitative data to base itself from. Forbes doesn’t really make much sense.</p>