<p>If a true list of influencial and powerful people were made (one that included most of them rather than just 71), several other universities would make the list, such as Cambridge, Ecole Polytechnique and IIT…to name a few). However, Harvard would absolutely dominate.</p>
<p>“Anybody who starts a thread with a Forbes ranking and questions the validity of someone else’s data should not be taken seriously. What’s wrong goldenboy? Are you upset that Duke isn’t in the top ten in those two lists?”</p>
<p>Forbes Rankings are a joke.</p>
<p>Just wondering how many on this list went to undergrad and how many received graduate degrees from these institutions? Did they count an individual twice if he/she went to one school as an undergrad and another as a graduate student? I imagine a lot of these people attended graduate school. That Princeton has a very small amount of graduate students and does not have a business school, law school or medical school may account for their low number.</p>
<p>“Just wondering how many on this list went to undergrad and how many received graduate degrees from these institutions?”</p>
<p>Good question justmom. More than 50% of the people on the list of 71 completed their graduate studies in the schools listed. </p>
<p>Of Harvard’s 12, 4 completed their undergraduate studies there. </p>
<p>Stanford has 5 listed alums, but only one did his undegraduate studies there. </p>
<p>Upenn had three on the list. But neither Buffet and Bloomberg graduated from there. Buffet transfered out after his Sophomore year while Bloomberg only has an honorary degree from Penn. So Penn only has one (Elon Musk), not three. He actually did his undergrad at Penn though.</p>
<p>Yale’s 2 alums (Clinton and Monti) both did they graduate studies there. Clinton did his undergrad at Georgetown while Monti completed his undergraduate studies in Italy. </p>
<p>Duke and UCLA also have two each, but in both cases, one of them completed his undergraduate studies at another university. </p>
<p>Same with Columbia; Buffet did his graduate studies there. </p>
<p>Bottom line, if one were to list undergraduate degrees only, the list would look very different:</p>
<p>Harvard University 4 (Steven Ballmer, Ben Bernanke, Lloyd Blankfein, John Roberts) </p>
<p>Massachusetts Institute of Technology 3 (Charles Koch, David Koch, Benjamin Netanyahu)</p>
<p>Auburn University 1 (Timothy Cook)
Brown University 1 (Jim Yong Kim)
Columbia University 1 (Barak Obama)
Dartmouth College 1 (Jeffrey Immelt)
Duke University 1 (William Gross)
Georgetown University 1 (Bill Clinton)
Johns Hopkins 1 (Michael Bloomberg)
Lehigh University 1 (Ali Al-Naimi)
Stanford University 1 (Reid Hoffman)
Tufts University 1 (Jamie Dimon)
University of California-Los Angeles 1 (Laurence Fink)
University of Maryland-College Park 1 (Sergey Brin)
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 1 (Larry Page)
University of Nebraska-Lincoln 1 (Warren Buffet)
University of Pennsylvania 1 (Elon Musk)</p>
<p>Top 25 LACs combined 0
California Institute of Technology 0
Cornell University 0
Emory University 0
New York University 0
Northwestern University 0
Princeton University 0
Rice University 0
University of Chicago 0
University of California-Berkeley 0 (down Beyphy/UCB…down! 
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University of Chicago 0
University of Notre Dame 0
University of Southern California 0
Vanderbilt University 0
Washington University-St Louis 0
Yale University 0</p>
<p>The problem with the list above, as far as Forbes is concerned; it is too egualitarian. Only 17 universities are represented, and 15 of those 17 are represented by just one alumnus. Nobody would care with such a ranking. #1, Harvard, #2 MIT, #3 15-way tie? It basically proves that where one goes to college is not all that important. Graduate school is what matters.</p>
<p>As far as I am concerned, the list is way too small and limited. There is no way that those 71 are the clear-cut most important/influencial people on earth. They all belong in a list of 500, but the remaining 400+ would be just as powerful and important as the majority of the people on Forbes list of 71.</p>
<p>From the top of the head, at least two billionaire alumni for Ohio State:</p>
<p>Leslie Wexner (over $200 million donation to tOSU thus far) & Huiyan Yang; both needed no additional graduate diploma to be successful!!</p>
<p>Likewise, at least two billionaire alumni for Michigan State:</p>
<p>Eli Broad (over $100 million donation to MSU thus far) & Dan Gilbert. </p>
<p>Give me da money!! :)</p>
<p>Sparkey, I usually do not like contributing to the image of Little Brother or the School-That-Lies-Beneath us, but in this instance, I will.</p>
<p>OHIO STATE:
Fortune 500 CEOs (8 CEOs, only 13 universities currently have more)
Carl Camben (Kelly Services)
Christopher Connor (Sherwin Williams)
Mark Frissora (Herz Global Holdings)
James O’Brian (Ashland Inc)
Paul Phipps (United Stationers)
James Rohr (PNC Financial Services)
Douglas Stotlar (Con-Way)
Les Wexner (Limited Brands)</p>
<p>Billionaires (2)
Leslie Wexner
Huiyan Yang</p>
<p>MICHIGAN STATE (3 CEOs)
Fortune 500 CEOs
Steven Chazen (Occiental Petroleum)
Timothy Main (Jabil Circuit)
John Russel (CMS Energy)</p>
<p>Billionaires (6)
Thomas Bailey
Eli Broad
Dan Gilbert
Tom Gores
Robert McLain
Toichi Takenaka</p>
<p>Now, I am going to go lie down on my couch. Hopefully, I won’t throw up.</p>
<p>^^ Thanks for the update, Alex!! Hope you will feel better soon… :p</p>
<p>I’ll recover. Losing to OSU in Football will take longer to get over.</p>
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<p>You missed one. Princeton has bezos, and i want to say that vandy has one undergrad. represented in the list as well, but don’t remember.</p>
<p>Princeton 1 (#27 Jeff Bozos)
UC-Berkeley (#53 Masayoshi Son)</p>
<p>I have updated the list. Harvard has graduate 4, MIT 3 and 17 universities have graduated 1 each.</p>
<p>Harvard University 4 (Steven Ballmer, Ben Bernanke, Lloyd Blankfein, John Roberts) </p>
<p>Massachusetts Institute of Technology 3 (Charles Koch, David Koch, Benjamin Netanyahu)</p>
<p>Auburn University 1 (Timothy Cook)
Brown University 1 (Jim Yong Kim)
Columbia University 1 (Barak Obama)
Dartmouth College 1 (Jeffrey Immelt)
Duke University 1 (William Gross)
Georgetown University 1 (Bill Clinton)
Johns Hopkins 1 (Michael Bloomberg)
Lehigh University 1 (Ali Al-Naimi)
Princeton University 1 (Jeff Bezos)
Stanford University 1 (Reid Hoffman)
Tufts University 1 (Jamie Dimon)
University of California-Berkeley 1 (Masayoshi Son)
University of California-Los Angeles 1 (Laurence Fink)
University of Maryland-College Park 1 (Sergey Brin)
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 1 (Larry Page)
University of Nebraska-Lincoln 1 (Warren Buffet)
University of Pennsylvania 1 (Elon Musk)</p>
<p>Top 25 LACs combined 0
California Institute of Technology 0
Cornell University 0
Emory University 0
New York University 0
Northwestern University 0
Rice University 0
University of Chicago 0
University of Chicago 0
University of Notre Dame 0
University of Southern California 0
Vanderbilt University 0
Washington University-St Louis 0
Yale University 0</p>
<p>The greatest company on the face of the earth, was guided by Mr. Jobs who went to u where? I know he didn’t complete his degree, but he did have some college in his background. Then succeeded by Timothy Cook who went to Auburn for undergrad. So I guess that tells you that if you’re far-sighted wrt tech innovations, you’ll succeed. But a lot of guys on Forbes’ list have tried to infringe on ideas/products (some allegedly) originated by Apple. Where are the negative points for these persons? </p>
<p>I think that Fink, UCLA undergrad and Anderson MBA, and Gross, Duke undergrad and Anderson MBA, were astute enough to avoid the whole mortgage meltdown, which a lot of Ivy-leaguers were not. Bonus points for both…</p>
<p>Btw, I think counting CEO’s of Fortune 500’s is a bit overrated. One, they have short careers and change almost like the wind; two, most of these are managers and not necessarily innovators. </p>
<p>And it appears that Son also went to UCLA but finished at Cal. I know, that’s a bit like Occidental claiming Obama, but he did go there.</p>
<p>I take issue with including people who didn’t compete their degree at that college or only hold an honorary degree from university, most especially in the case of UPenn, since two of the three credited (in the diagram) don’t hold a real degree from the University. Were this to be revised to only show actual degree holders it would be far more accurate.</p>
<p>cty4ever, this was done in post #71. But like I said, restricting the list to just 71 people is pointless. Far too many people are left out of this list.</p>
<p>Billionaires (2)
Leslie Wexner
Huiyan Yang</p>
<p>Jeez, how many football jerseys did these guys have to trade to make enough to join the billionaires’ club?</p>
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<p>I addressed this in my post 42:</p>
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<p>Although i agree that the legitimacy of this list is slightly put into question since many who attended these universities gained prominence without graduating from them. That might give counter-evidence to the fact that these universities are ‘power factories’ who ‘produce’ the world’s most powerful people.</p>
<p>As i’ve done throughout this thread, i’m still in disagreement with Alexandre. I would not count many of the people he’s listed in the Forbes 71, nor do i think only including 71 people reduces the legitimacy of the ranking.</p>
<p>Here are some good descriptions of Gross and Fink, and exactly why Forbes chose them among the 71:</p>
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<p>It looks like Duke has a good chance of not being in next year’s ranking:</p>
<p>[Apple’s</a> $lide not based on fundamentals - NYPOST.com](<a href=“http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/apple_lide_not_based_on_fundamentals_s5t5KAfRtw3bi093Z2vmKI]Apple’s”>Apple’s $lide not based on fundamentals)</p>
<p>Something else I should note (which I just found out today) is that both Fink and Gross have strong ties to UCLA Anderson. Both of them have met together multiple times to discuss business topics that were organized by Anderson. One such conversation happened in 2006:</p>
<p>[UCLA</a> Anderson School of Management ROI 2006 - YouTube](<a href=“UCLA Anderson School of Management ROI 2006 - YouTube”>UCLA Anderson School of Management ROI 2006 - YouTube)</p>
<p>Lastly, something else I was wondering for a while, is why a school like Duke is higher than a school like UCLA since they each have two alums. The answer is, it isn’t. After Tsinghua, the universities are listed alphabetically (which is why Columbia is the first and Yale is the last.) All of the universities after Tsinghua are in a six-way tie for sixth place.</p>
<p>Berkeley: Gordon Moore. Founder of Intel and Moore’s Law.</p>
<p>Beyphy, Tim Cook isn’t getting fired anytime soon. Apple’s senior executive board loves him and the IPhone 5 has been heralded as a great success.</p>