<p>Hi, I got accepted by both Syracuse Whitman and Fordham. I want to study in business major. I am struggling to make a decision betweeen these two schools.</p>
<p>I vistited both of them, and they look fine to me. They also gave me a good financial packages, but fordham give a little bit more..</p>
<p>I need professional advices who graduate either from Syracuse or Fordham. Any suggestions on job recruiting for these two schools would be great!</p>
<p>I dont know much about Syracuse Business, but I know there is a large contigent of Orange Alumni in Manhattan and on Wall Street.
But Fordham takes a second seat to nobody. JPMorgan among others, recruits at Fordham every year and hires a bundle. Only the best of course.</p>
<p>If you perform at Fordham, opportunities will be there in finance, accounting firms, investment banking, media and communications, advertising firms, law firms on and on.</p>
<p>Plus being in New York for school is an experience that is second to none. And Gabelli has a new building (refurbishing Hughes Hall) with an NYSE trading floor in the lobby!</p>
<p>My S is having a great experience at Gabelli so I’d highly recommend Fordham. But a lot depends on the type of environment you want. Fordham is a mid-size Jesuit school with a large core curriculum in the Bronx. Classes are small and you get to know all of your professors. Syracuse is a large non-sectarian private school in upstate NY which has bigger sports as well as fraternities. Only you can choose.</p>
<p>But when you guys mentioned about Gabelli, I am enrolled into the Rose Hill one, so would I ever get involved with Gabelli, since that is a graduate school?</p>
<p>I heard that the social life there is not quite sounding…and I lived off campus, so does that make it worse?</p>
<p>WRONG! Where are you getting this information? Your admission letter, if you have one, clearly states that Gabelli School of Business is the undergraduate school of business at Rose Hill, which it shares with Fordham College at Rose Hill. The Graduate School of Business is in Manhattan at Lincoln Center.</p>
<p>Well…I got into the Rose Hill campus. So does that mean I would be able to study in Gabelli as well? The admission letter says that I have been admitted to Rose Hill not Gabelli…</p>
<p>wait…would I also receive education for Gabelli since I choose majoring at Eco?
confused…</p>
<p>Hopefully this will clarify — Gabelli is the undergraduate business school of Fordham University which is located on the Rose Hill campus. Fordham College at Rose Hill is the liberal arts school which is located on the same campus. Students in Gabelli and RH take the same core classes, live together, are in the same activities-- it is the same school – it is just that students will have different majors. Economics is part of the liberal arts school (but majors like accounting/finance/marketing etc. are at Gabelli). I am fairly certain that a RH student can minor in business and take elective classes in Gabelli. You can look at Fordham’s website to get more information.</p>
<p>If you would like to major in business and you did not apply to Gabelli, I suggest you call admissions and see if you can move into the business school – I don’t think it would be a problem to make the change, but you should be certain before you make a final college decision if you want to study business as an undergrad. If you want to be an economics major you are fine where you are.</p>
<p>There is a pretty significant difference between studying economics in a liberal arts program and being in a business program (where you typically have a business core curriculum etc.) so you should think about what you want to study. One is not better or worse than they other, they are just different.</p>
<p>Hmmm. So, if that is the case. I heard that you wont be declaring your major till your sophormor year, so is it okay to swith to Gabelli later on? </p>
<p>I have never notice that Gabelli is an Undergraduate program. And I was accepted through some state programs that offered me financially, so I do not know if that was possible to change my school around. </p>
<p>And I thought Economics is kind of Business?</p>
<p>When my S (who is now a senior) began it was easy to switch between RH and Gabelli but I’d check with admissions to be sure that is still true. And while you can switch, some of the freshman classes are different if you are in RH or Gabelli (I think there is a calculus for business) so if you know you that want Gabelli, it will be easier if you switch in sooner rather than later. I am pretty sure that Gabelli was an option on Fordham’s application but that doesn’t really matter at this point, what matter is getting into the school you want to be in (be it RH or Gabelli). </p>
<p>Sorry but I don’t know about any particular program you were accepted into, you need to check on that. Economics is the most business-oriented liberal arts major, but at the higher levels it can get very theoretical. And you don’t take the business core (ex.intro to accounting/mgmt/marketing/b-law etc.) that you would in Gabelli (although you should be able to minor in business and take classes in Gabelli that way).</p>
<p>They are all good options, but you should take some time to look at the websites of Fordham and Syracuse Whitman, look at the classes you can take, and think about what you want. There is no right or wrong answer.</p>
<p>I think both schools are in similar levels (I went to Syracuse for law school so I can speak about both), so lets see the ranking:</p>
<p>US News and World Report 2012, National Category: Fordham is 53rd, Syracuse is 62nd. Fordham has been steadily climbing the rankings while SU has recently dropped (this may have to due with their withdrawal from the AAU).</p>
<p>Businessweek undergrad business rankings 2012: Fordham is ranked 49th and Syracuse is 61st</p>
<p>SU is in a midsize city in central NY, a fine private school with lots to do and a very strong alumni base. Great sports and wicked winters!</p>
<p>FU in NYC, lovely gothic campus with many intern/job opportunities and lots to do with a very strong alumni base.</p>
<p>We have a confused person here. Don’t know how to help them.</p>
<p>But yes, you can minor in Business at Gabelli while being a RH student. Economics is not Business. But some Economics courses may be taught in Gabelli…you have to check.</p>
<p>You can also switch from RH to Gabelli…but you just petition to do so with the Dean and/or Admissions.</p>
<p>It never ceases to amaze me how many people apply to schools without doing due diligence and proper investigation of the programs, schools etc., sight unseen. </p>
<p>This is likely a confused International Student. Or they can simply go to Syracuse.</p>
<p>Unfortunately some HS students are poorly advised through the process. I remember when I was a senior (a long time ago) in what I would call a middle of the road high school (the school was not bad, but not great), my guidance counselor told me that economics was the same as accounting so it didn’t matter if I went to a school that had a business major or not. Boy, was he wrong. Fortunately my dad was an accountant and knew better, but it would have been easy for me to blindly follow his advice.</p>
<p>^^ But that was before the internet no doubt, Happy. And today, kids know more than their parents and counselors and teachers. My daughter advised her teachers and counselors on Fordham (and other schools) since they were preprogrammed to send all students to state universities.</p>
<p>I do think the same mistake can be made today (as evidenced by this thread). Not all HS students are on top of things as it sounds like your daughter was. This shows why it is so important to do the up-front research in order to get all the information needed to make a good choice.</p>
<p>I will give you the other side of the coin here; my D is a graduating Newhouse/Syracuse senior…a ton of her friends are in Whitman; she is actually a minor there…</p>
<p>They ALL have jobs already when they graduate…they ALL had paid strong internships in NYC and elsewhere last year…</p>
<p>I would imagine the same for Fordham in the business school; but it doesn’t sound like the OP is in the biz school after all…</p>
<p>Rankings do not take alumni into account in the cities grads want to settle in…apparently the Whitman rankings went down due to professor evaluation issues, but not 100% sure…</p>
<p>I have just contacted the admission office, and they said that Gabelli is full already…So I might need to stay for a semester or so…and switch it till then…but I am just worry about the academic process in Gabelli if I switch late…</p>
<p>So what can I do with majoring in Economics? like jobs, or internships. I heard you wont be able to get the same internships as the students in Gabelli do…</p>
<p>My son did the same thing last fall (applied to Fordham College and then decided he wanted Gabelli after he started). He was able to transfer for the spring semester, but he needed a minimum of a 2.7 GPA on his midterm report, had to go to a lecture about switching colleges, get a form signed by his dean and then a signature from the dean at Gabelli. It wasn’t a difficult process, but he is one class behind the normal schedule that a freshman at Gabelli would have because he took a foreign language which is not required for the business school. Also, he had to take 2 math courses at Gabelli this spring because he didn’t take one in the fall. I think he started the transfer process in October or November because it had to be completed by early December for the spring. If you decide to stick with economics as a major at Fordham College there are jobs available with financial services firms among others. I hope this helps.</p>
<p>My daughter wanted to take business courses and become a marketing major in her Junior year! She is a comm major in FC. Turns out she should have picked Gabelli from the start and thought it was so unfair that she could not take many business courses while in Fordham College. It would have been too difficult for her to switch at this late stage. Now while she will make marketing/advertising her career choice and has done much to set her up for a great career, including amazing internships, she will graduate from FC with a BA in communications.
Poor planning can lead to poor results, but in her case she will be just fine.</p>
<p>Don’t worry too much about internships: pick a field and just apply to the job. My daughter is not in Gabelli and got some great internships in her field. Fordham does a great job in getting internships in just about evey business field.</p>
<p>You just need to decide what you WANT to do. If it is economics- be at Rose Hill and make good relations with your professors and compete for internships in that field. Dont compare internships at Rose hill with those at gabelli since they are 2 very different schools and work for different areas.</p>