Fordham vs Villanova (Business)

<p>Hi so now the time has come for me to make a decision on which college to attend. As of now I am considering studying finance. Between the two schools which would you choose. My financial package is almost the same at both schools.</p>

<p>Things I would like addressed:</p>

<p>Social Scene
Prestige
Career Services Department
Internships</p>

<p>Also I was wondering how much weight to place on rankings as , Villanova seems to be dropping every year on the Bloomberg rankings, where as Fordham is rising, although slowly.</p>

<p>Also I was accepted into the Villanova Global Citizenship Program in Hong Kong---is it worth it?</p>

<p>There was a thread on this last year that got quite a few answers.</p>

<p>see:
fordham versus villanova </p>

<p>Fordham for sure. One of Fordham’s strengths is in business/finance, and not just because of its location. The program is good and you will get good internships.</p>

<p>Both good programs, can’t go wrong with either. Which appeals to you more. Philly or NYC? Visit both.</p>

<p>Agree with RamRay. Can’t go wrong with either, especially since you are participating in the Global Citizenship program. If you had a straight up business at Villanova, Fordham would have won hands down. SO, Philly or NYC? Perhaps better internships in NYC. Good luck.</p>

<p>I live near Philly. I’d want my kid to go to New York…</p>

<p>It isn’t as simple as Philly versus NYC. Fordham is in the Bronx. Villanova is in the suburbs. Depends what you like. </p>

<p>As this is a Fordham Forum, let me toss in this little (pro Fordham business) fact I have posted on other strings…</p>

<p>Allow me to cite something that might sway your decision. The Paris School of Mines does a study of the top CEOs at Fortune 500 companies every few years and ranks all the schools in the world (thousands) according to the number each places in these high business positions and lists the top 700. Below is a listing of all the US (and UK) schools on the current rankings. I have excluded all other international schools. Note where Fordham lands. This speaks well of the strength of a Fordham degree in the business world.</p>

<p>PARIS SCHOOL OF MINES;
WORLD UNIVERSITY 2011 RANKINGS
TOP 700</p>

<p>1- Harvard
5- Oxford
12- Columbia
13- Stanford
14- MIT
19- Northwestern
21- Chicago
15- Cornell
29- Berkley
30- Cambridge
35- Yale
38- Georgia Tech, Notre Dame
59- Dartmouth
63- FORDHAM, Johns Hopkins, Duke,
82- Princeton
92- Brown, U-Miami, USN academy,
211- Xavier
228- U San Francisco, Santa Clara, Dayton
229- Boston College, Boston University, NYU, Rutgers, Michigan, Vanderbilt,
West Point, USAF academy, Pace, CCNY
349- Emory, Georgetown, U San Diego</p>

<p>In 2014 Fordham moved up to 16th </p>

<p>I do not believe Villanova made the top 500. This is not any final statement on either school, just one interesting statistic to consider.</p>

<p>Where is UPENN on that list??</p>

<p>You can go to their website- <a href=“Highly-ranked French engineering school - MINES PARISTECH”>Highly-ranked French engineering school - MINES PARISTECH; and look it up, but many are surprised when schools you expect to see listed at the top are not…UPENN is one of them.</p>

<p>Also, in 2013, The Gabelli School ranks in the top 25 nationwide in six of 14 business disciplines, according to a list released by Bloomberg Businessweek.</p>

<p>The six areas are as follows:</p>

<p>International business: 7th
Marketing: 11th
Corporate strategy: 16th
Finance: 17th
Sustainability: 22nd
Entrepreneurship: 25th</p>

<p>CORRECTION:
I must have missed it, but in the last 2014 update of this listing, Villanova was in a large pool of schools ranked 216th.</p>

<p>So, for this unique listing of where top CEOs graduated from, some key (US only) schools are:
Fordham and Cornell-16th, Columbia-18th, Georgetown-82nd, Adelphi (surprise!), Boston College and Miami-89th
And the group that falls into the 216th group (that is to say they all had the exact same number of CEOs in F-500):
Colgate, Lehigh, LoyolaU-MD, NYU, Northeastern, St. John’s and Villanova.</p>

<p>So FWIW, this is one measure of a successful business program. Not at all what you will see ranked in USN&WR which uses different criteria, SO PLEASE TAKE THESE RESULTS IN THAT LIGHT</p>

<p>Thanks! Very interesting and I forwarded it to my daughter, Gabelli Marketing/International Business, G.L.O.B.E. program for Chinese and Spanish.</p>

<p>Overall, it is very close so go to the school you feel most comfortable at. Two very fine Catholic schools. The main differences I see are NY(Bronx) v Phila suburbs, bigger sports program at V (specifically basketball), and V has Greek Life (although there are no houses).</p>

<p>Least anyone infer that I am saying Fordham is better than UPENN or any great school not highly listed on this rating, while this shows CEOs in Fortune 500s, it does not show who OWNS a Fortune 500 company. I would well imagine that a listing of big business owners would have schools like UPENN at the top.</p>

<p>Trying to be balanced, It is worth noting that many schools which did not list high on this study are ranked highly in BussnessWeek, Forbes or USN&WR and vice versa. It just so happens that in this ranking, as a particular measure of success Fordham shines.</p>