Foreign Schools

<p>Edinburgh is offering a direct MA (honors) for psychology and business studies. Not a bad joint degree combo, don't you think? UCL is offering a BSc in psych. LOL yeah jessica, London IS London alright. But I've lived there before and never in Edinburgh. So... I just wanna add another place to my list of "cities I've lived" and go for the different experience. :p No but seriously, would UCL really give me that extra boost in terms of job prospects/graduate studies?</p>

<p>And thanks guys for all the input so far!</p>

<p>I think in terms of general prestige UCL pips Edinburgh somewhat... However in terms of employability afterwards i don't think you'd be at any disadvantage being an Edinburgh graduate. But then again i suppose it depends on what sort of employment we're talking about. If you're interesting in psychiatry or something clinically orientated you'd probably be better at UCL because most of London's Royal Institutes (eg of Neurology) are part of UCL.</p>

<p>I'm more arts/social sciences-inclined and not planning a career in psychiatry. That's why the MA from Edinburgh seems a better fit right now than the BSc. Anyone else agrees with the "no difference in terms of employability" randomuser raised? (which I really want to agree with!)</p>

<p>'Randomuser' is more than a bit random when guiding us through the delights of Brit unis. For a start places like Bristol and Durham are regarded as good alsoran academies -they are not front rank, sound though they are, and they do not have much international standing.</p>

<p>The big wheel institutions: there are 4 that traditionally year in year out make the running: Oxford and Cambridge (good all round, especially in the humanities and in pure science, not so hot in social sciences/technology). LSE -for the social sciences as a whole, and Imperial -for technology and applied science and medicine. These are the places that supply the famous names and that make the breakthroughs and that influence public life. Sure it's unfair, and there are other worthy places (ie Manchester, Edinburgh), but this is where the action is, and it will take a heck of a long time and an awful lot of achievement before others can catch up. One major problem is money and competition - all of the big four began life in the days when there was far less competition and when money mattered less - so they had the chance to build up a strong lead in their best areas - and now there are far too many universities and too little money for their rivals to close the gap. </p>

<p>Be careful in addition about institutions that owe their status to fashion and good PR rather than real world achievement: ie Warwick, York, St Andrews -often they are fine colleges, but their rep is still inflated -not that anybody has heard of them very much outside the UK. And how are they going to get the funding and multiple Nobel Prizes and research investment to catch up with the big four who established themselves long, long, ago?</p>

<p>Another grouping:the G5-the four above plus University College London -the G5 is really a semi formal lobby group. They come together to hustle for funds and resources. Sometimes the perceptual/reputational kaleidoscope shifts again and you hear people talk about the 'Golden Triangle' (Oxford and Cambridge and the leading London University colleges -yes, LSE, Imperial UCL and maybe King's)</p>

<p>Then there's the Russell Group, another self- selecting 'elite' body which incudes the above five and totals about twenty universities, including Bristol and places like Warwick -it includes most of the 'good' universities, although outstanding places like Sussex belong to different clusters (there's even a research intensive cabal called the 95 group to which Sussex belongs) - so none of it's an exact science - a bit like British society itself it's formed of overlapping and eccentric groupings whose exact composition depends on who you're chatting to.</p>

<p>But get one thing right: in the long term the big four remains the big four: LSE, Oxford, Imperial, Cambridge (in no particular order).</p>

<p>Thanks, Parforthecourse, for that post. Learned quite a bit! As it is, I accepted UCL's offer some two weeks ago, but I doubt that's where I will graduate from in the end... for various reasons. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Does anyone know of any good international business schools in Portugal, Brazil, France, Spain, Argentina, Chile, Italy, Belgium, or Switzerland? I can speak Portuguese(the best) and French, and I with that I can choose Spanish or Italian as well to learn by the time I apply, those 2 are easy to learn from Portuguese.</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>I'm also considering Ireland and the UK with a year abroad in France. I would LOVE to go to uni abroad and I think I'm pretty set on it.</p>

<p>UCLAri, This info may be outdated, my brother went to study at University of Kyoto and he had to spend one extra year to study Japanese language first before he could study engineering, is this not true anymore.
eiffelguy87, How good is University of London, King's college? I checked the EAP program at UC and they have a bio EAP with this school.</p>

<p>Does any one have any information about the EAP program at Costa Rica for bio, I would love to hear about the experience. Is Spanish the spoken language here or is it different? Does it have a foreign language requirement for the UC EAP? Thanks ahead.</p>

<p>King's College in London is REALLY good, one of the top 10 in the UK I think.</p>

<p>SusieQ, if you want to know how well King's fare for that subject in particular, you could check out the Times university rankings. They have a breakdown of the schools by subject. Of course, this is still just a ranking which is affected by numerous factors, some of which you might not care for, so take it with a pinch of salt.</p>

<p>leigh787, which Times, the weekly US Times or UK. I just want to know if it's good enough so my d can do an overseas study(1-year only), not getting the whole degree. The UCs in California has the EAP(exchange kind of program) for this in bio and d is somewhat interested in this field. However, my husband says London is a terrible place for student in term of cost. His niece went to some medical school in London, I forgot what they told us, but I think it has South London(??). H's information of UK school is a bit outdated?</p>

<p>The UK Times.</p>

<p>Well if cost is a considerable factor, then yes London may not be the ideal place. I'm sorry I'm not able to provide much info in the bio field, but if you're looking into a school that provides excellent education, I know that U. of Edinburgh (one of the "Ancient Univerisities" of UK) is extremely well known in that area. However, my friends there also reflected that the cost of living in Edinburgh, wonderful as it is as a city, is not all that low either. Hope that helps.</p>

<p>Thanks, I''ll check out the Times next time I'm in England.</p>

<p>Uni in London with everything total(including spending money) should be about $30.000 a year. That's about the same as the US. Plus, most degree's there are 3 years.</p>

<p>Oh SusieQ no, I think it's actually more readily available online? Was trying to get the link for you but didn't work until now. Check</a> it out here and [url=<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,8405,00.html%5Dhere%5B/url"&gt;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,8405,00.html]here[/url&lt;/a&gt;].&lt;/p>

<p>JakeR,
I think it's cheaper if we paid through UC EAP. I saw something $5750 US dollar, UC school subsidizes partially(I think), but not exactly sure for what quarter, living expense, I need to do some more research.
The cost is 15,000 in pounds(is this correct?)</p>

<p>Leigh787, Thank you.</p>

<p>1 Year Tution for Internationals at Kings is £10,728 for 06/07. Add about £5000-£6000 per year for spending and accomidation and stuff, and so it is about £15000-£16000 each year.</p>

<p>£15000=$28000
£16000=$30000</p>

<p>And it only takes 3 years to get a degree there also. </p>

<p>Good luck! How long are you planning on going for? The whole 3 years or there on exchange?</p>

<p>JakeR,
Just 1-year exchange to broaden her outlook on things, England is not as cold as New England, plus London is a great city for arts and culture, I mean easy access to great museums/play/theater, etc.. I prefer my daughter to get a degree in the states since she will be working here and most Americans are generally more familiar with US school. I have a brother who graduated from a second best school in Japan and when he applied for work here, employer treated him like a second class citizen.</p>

<p>There are American schools available overseas, where everything is taught in English. The Richmond American School is an example, and there are plenty of others in various countries around the world. So check them out.</p>

<p>The American school's abroad are EXTREMELY expensive. And I have a friend who goes to the Richmond one in London, she's transfering from it and a bunch of other people are too, the classes aren't amazing she said and they accept almost anyone that has money and applies.</p>