<p>The three top houses are Fiji, Zete and SAE.</p>
<p>Fiji-Beautiful house, great relations with top sororities, decent parties/gamedays. Moderate hazing
Zete-Best parties/gamedays, house is supposedly being remodeled now, good sorority relations, athletic. Hardest hazing
SAE-Nice house, very athletic, sororities love them, great location. Hard hazing</p>
<p>These are the three houses you should shoot for. In the event that you don’t get a bid from any of these three, I would recommend checking out Pike, Dke and Sigma Chi</p>
<p>LOL I didn’t even realize the frats had “tiers.” It really does remind me of middle/high school with the cool kids. Out of curiosity, what makes one frat better/more desirable than another on an objective scale? I was always under the impression a student whose rushing chooses a frat based on where he gets a bid / where he likes the people</p>
<p>im asking this because obviously i don’t want to pledge to @ssholes, or a house that lacks the social benefits. i know this thread lacks the “mature” perspective of the greek system, but realistically the frat ranking/tiers do exist and i just would like to know the pros and cons before starting school. i would appreciate if you stop with that pointless criticism and actually help me out, if you can. thanks!</p>
<p>@OP, the way you posted your original message, you came off sounding like a superficial freshman looking for the cool crowd or a nerdy Asian who doesn’t know what they’re getting into. I’m not saying your either one because you’re probably not. But that’s what it looks like when you write two line sentence fragments asking about social hierarchies on a college forum. </p>
<p>I’m not going to offer rankings because the only thing that should matter is the brothers in the houses. If you don’t like the brothers, it won’t matter how highly they are “ranked” because you won’t enjoy your time. I will say this though: the more social benefits a house has (I’m assuming you mean parties with the “best-looking” girls), the harder they haze. And if you’re a cool and chill guy, frats will give you a bid no matter what ethnicity you are.</p>
<p>relax everyone why do you need to rag on chris?</p>
<p>i know asians in “top frats”. most of the guys are white (almost all) but if you get along with the guys then race doesn’t matter. if that is what you want it’ll depend mostly just on your own personality. don’t spend too much time rushing a “top frat” if you don’t fit with the guys, it’ll waste your time. there are also asian-themed frats but those typically aren’t considered “cool”, though my friend (asian girl) considers one of them her fav. honestly, forget about cool because you’re transferring into adulthood now, so just become at peace with who you are; you will only flourish if you’re in the right spot for yourself, not what you think you could be if you “tried”. so cast a wide net when school starts and make sure you’re in tune with yourself. lots of mid-tier frats are filled with cool people as well, they’re just not constantly pulling all the hottest sororities etc, but where you can still make great friends, throw a few parties, have some exchanges with sororities, etc</p>
<p>Tiers are based on who the hottest sororities associate with the most. For example, kappa and pi phi hang out at Fiji, sae and Zete a lot. Similarly, tridelt hangs out with delta chi. On paper it appears to be middle school esque but it’s mostly just the most attractive people wanting to hook up with the most attractive people</p>
<p>On a side note, debix has repeatedly proven himself to be a complete idiot, and a rather offensive one at that, so . . . really says something about the quality of this thread if it warrants him showing up . . .</p>
<p>Your input is very necessary. The kid asked questions, I answered them. It’s cool that you’re such a big person behind a computer screen. Have fun not being invited to the good parties</p>
<p>@caiacs : there’s no need to bash others, regardless of the quality of the question/comments. the reason why i post this thread is so that i can avoid ******s like yourself at berkeley. you call me immature (which i don’t disagree) but take a look at yourself as well. you’re not as mature either - you didnt have to post anything to this thread if you saw it as “a stupid question that didn’t particularly demand an anwer.”</p>
<p>@debix: thank you for an honest answer, it will be a great reference to me.</p>
<p>now, i do understand that i need to pledge to a house where ill feel most comfortable at. but obviously, i am not going to be as “comfortable” if i end up at a disrespected house (notoriously ******y, not popular/lame, etc). this is why i was curious about the reputation of the houses, and i would appreciate if you guys give me better answers, instead of criticizing me for being a shallow, immature freshmen (which i have to say i am to a certain degree). thank you all.</p>
<p>caiacs - Why are you even in this thread? You obviously know very little about the greek system and aren’t contributing anything but your false sense of superiority. I hope you’re enjoying your friday night gaming and coding sessions, which I’m sure is the “cool table” you sit at.</p>
<p>To the OP - Easy solution for you. The week before school starts all houses (read: every single one) will be open, and this is the only time you’ll be able to go anywhere without knowing people or being on a list. Here, you can see how attractive the girls are, how ******y/cool/whatever the bros are, and can then go into actual rush with an idea. I won’t give specific tiers/names of houses since it all becomes one giant flame war.</p>
<p>Art history majors must do a lot of coding in your world . . . </p>
<p>I’m just really put off by the idea of uh . . “tiers” . . . which implies that certain people are “better” than others based on who they associate with.</p>
<p>If it were just a thread asking about how the “Greek life” is . . . I wouldn’t even reply.</p>
<p>And that’s perfectly fine. However, you immediately brought up this unwanted “middle-school” mentality nonsense which contributed nothing except for boosting your internet ego. I’d love to see you make these same claims to an actual member of the Greek system, just as I can confidently say here that Art History majors are wasting both their own money and the university’s. </p>
<p>Welcome to life. People associate themselves into groups, and generally speaking, tiers. You don’t see the filthy rich hanging with the poor, executives hanging with the janitors, etc etc. Is it correct? Probably not. Does the OP have the right to ask about it? Sure, because his experience is impacted by what he learns.</p>
<p>Since you’re all up in this ***** about top colleges and hyper smart people, let me put it in terms that you understand. Colleges are ranked into tiers, olympiad nerds are ranked into tiers, hell artists are ranked into tiers. Get over it, its life.</p>
<p>Enjoy your history classes or whatever you guys take, and let the OP go wild. It’s college, some spend it playing videogames, others in the library, and others partying on weekends. It’s not that big of a deal. </p>
<p>So again chriswon92, if you want to find the balance between hot girls and cool guys, you have to find it yourself. Go to as many parties as you can in the few weeks before and you’ll quickly be able to figure it out.</p>