Freaking Out

<p>I live in the Minnesota where EVEYONE takes the ACT and goes to in-state schools. My high school doesn't even offer the SAT. I really, really want to go to Coastal schools and my top three choices are: NYU, Emerson and Chapman. Will I need to take the SAT to get in, and how important are the Subject tests? My school doesn't even talk about those and I've only just heard of them, I have no idea how or where to take them! HELP!!!!</p>

<p>Check the school's website and if they require the SAT/SAT II subject tests go to the college board's website - collegeboard.com - and learn all about them.</p>

<p>Most schools (and I know NYU) accept the ACT instead of both the SAT I and SAT II's. As Dima said, check the websites to be sure. But if they do accept the ACT, then just relax!</p>

<p>All 3 say: students will be required to submit scores from the new SAT OR the ACT including the Writing section.</p>

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<p>But make sure to check not only that they accept the ACT (with Writing) instead of the SAT but also make sure that they don't require SAT II Subject Tests.</p>

<p>I know that many schools might say you need to take the SAT or the ACT with Writing but you also have to take two SAT II's.</p>

<p>From NYU's website:</p>

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We encourage all applicants to submit the results of two SAT Subject Tests. For students entering NYU as freshmen in September, 2007 (current juniors), our policy concerning SAT Subject Tests is changing. Beginning with the freshman class entering in 2007, all students, except for those noted below, will be required to submit two SAT Subject Tests. This requirement does not apply to those students applying for programs in our Tisch School of the Arts or for the studio art or for any of the music programs in our Steinhardt School of Education. (Note that students applying to programs in Steinhardt that do not require an audition or portfolio will be required to submit two SAT II scores.)

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<p>Chapman (if you mean Chapman University in Orange County, CA) and Emerson do not require SAT II's. Both accept either the SAT I or the ACT.</p>

<p>Most schools will take the ACT, but East Coast schools prefer the SAT. You can definitely take the SAT at another high school- plenty of Minnesota schools offer it. Where in MN are you from?</p>

<p>I've taken (am taking) so many tests this year (PSAT, ACT, AP) that I'd really prefer not to have to take the SAT if the ACT won't hurt my chances. Will I really have to worry about this w/ a 32????</p>

<p>I'm from the New London-Spicer area, and around here it's allllllll ACTs baby. I haven't met one person who even knows what a Subject Test is. Not even my guidance counselor knew when I asked her.</p>

<p>SAT II subject tests are different from the regular reasoning test. They test specific areas of knowledge and measure quantity of knowledge instead of aptitude. Most competitive east coast schools require at least two SAT IIs; some require three.</p>

<p>Each test lasts for about an hour - not as bad as the reasoning test.</p>

<p>I disagree that most East Coast schools prefer the SAT. That may have been historically true, but they all say that they don't care. Why would they lie? If you are content with your ACT score, don't worry about the SAT I. Take the SAT II's only if the school requires them in addition to the ACT. Many (such as Wesleyan, Brandeis, Skidmore) will accept the ACT instead of both the SAT I and SAT IIs. Not all schools do; Haverford, for example, requires 2 SAT IIs even if you submit the ACT. Check the websites or e-mail admissions of the schools you are interested in.</p>

<p>you dont have to take the SAT if you took the ACT but if you want to go to a top school - you really should take a couple of SAT II's</p>

<p>The SAT Subject tests are DIFFERENT from the SAT Reasoning Test. East coast schools are willing to accept the ACT in place of the reasoning test, but NOT in place of the subject tests.</p>

<p>Ugh, this sucks. I thought I was in the clear and it turns out theres this whole other test that my school doesn't even offer or tell us about. When I asked my guidance counselor about it she had no idea what I was talking about and Googled it! Now I'm applying to colleges next fall and I find out I need them to get into my dream school, yet I don't know anything about them or have proficient time to prepare and do well. I feel like I'm going to cry.</p>

<p>Don't panic. </p>

<p>Go to collegeboard.com and start a registration to see where the tests will be offered near you. You don't have to complete it. Next, pick subjects that you'll have to study for anyway for finals. My d. took American History at the end of her US History AP year, Math (the lower level one since she doesn't plan to go into science), and English Literature (she was taking an AP in that, too.) She got these out of the way in one sitting in her junior spring. Foreign languages are also good to take, but they are best taken in the fall when you've had a little more experience in the language. If you take the subject tests by October, the results will be in for ED.</p>

<p>Thanks. It just doesn't seem fair that my school doesn't even tell us about tnhis SUPER IMPORTANT TEST, because they think most of us will burn out and end up the Tech Colleges in the area. It doesn't even seem fair that there are two different tests, because it really doesn't put everyone out on an equal playing field, now does it?</p>

<p>I read on another thread a few minutes ago that only 60 colleges require the SAT II.</p>

<p>I was referring to the ACT and SAT I, though.</p>

<p>marmar, please CHECK THE INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL WEBSITES. I listed at least three top-tier East Coast schools that do NOT require SAT IIs (the Subject Tests) if you submit the ACT. I know of several others as well. Before you go nuts, make sure that the schools you want really require SAT IIs in addition to the ACT. Most do not.</p>

<p>(Sorry, Momwaitingfornew, but the websites specifically state SAT Reasoning and 2 SAT Subject tests, OR the ACT in lieu of both.)</p>

<p>Boston Cllege doesn't require the SAT IIs if you take the ACT. However taking the SAT IIS may improve your chances of getting in. If taking an AP in the subject taking the SAT II afterword shouldn't be too much additional effort. Also, some students do better on the SATs than ACTs. My D who is good in Math, did much better on the SAT I math than the ACT for some reason. You can determine an approximate equivalent SAT/ACT score by googling "SAT/ACT conversion".</p>

<p>Chedva, no apologies necessary. The ones my d. applied to required SAT subjects. Since she did not take the ACT, I didn't know that some schools waived the subjects tests.</p>