French in USA

Your 3.1 GPA will not guarantee you admission to Vanderbilt.

Read post 9 again from @happymomof1 don’t count your chickens before they hatch.

You will ONLY be eligible to receive a Pell Grant IF you get green card status and can file a fafsa. Otherwise…no Pell.

You will be considered an international applicant until you get that green card…and if that is the case…read this:

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/financialaid/undergraduate/international.php

When are you hoping to start college? Month and year?

@thumper1 : I know that. I will apply to transfer only if I hold the Green Card.

@mommdc : Thanks for this information

@TomSrOfBoston : Please remember the reckoner is not the same in France or in the USA. Here a GPA of 3.1 in Senior Yr is a very good score ( remember that I’m the Salutatorian of my clzss - 35 students ). I will try the ACT test or the SAT and admission committees will compare students with that ( but it’s not the only criteria - with essay, transcripts, etc. ).

Cheers,

“I can’t pay 67.000$ per year to study,…”

In that case you have essentially three options: (i) Find an appropriate university in France. (ii) Find an appropriate university elsewhere in Europe (I am not aware of what the prices are between different European countries); (iii) Find an appropriate university in Quebec (noting that there is a cooperative agreement between Quebec and France).

Pick one of these three options, at least for the next four years.

Also, I understand that a few years of socialism in France is very discouraging. However, I am pretty sure that France at least is rapidly and painfully learning the “socialism doesn’t work” lesson, and that this will change relatively quickly for you. It seems quite likely that the US will try the same experiment in the future (most likely with the same result).

An FYI regarding transfers. Transfer students at many schools are at the BOTTOM of the list of students that receive need based aid. At many schools, the generous need based awards go to incoming freshmen only, as a transfer, you may find some schools to be unaffordable.

Vandy does meet full need for all transfers (not international transfers) but the acceptance rate for transfers is LOW.

Thanks for answering. I’ll surely choose a university in France for the first year ( Paris VI ). But I asked here if I hold the Green Card. I also know many schools are unaffordable, I’ll try to avoid them. I know transfer admission rates in many universities are hard, but I love challenging …

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WHEN do you plan to start college? Fall 2018? fall 2019?

When???

@thumper1 : When ?? If I am selected on May 2017, I’ll transfer on Fall 2018. If I am selected on May 2018, I’ll transfer on Fall 2019 …

A green card is NOT going to make these colleges magically affordable…you mentioned Harvard. I urge you to look at the acceptance rate for Harvard which is below 10%. It’s even LOWER for transfer students.

A school like Harvard uses the CSS Profile to determine eligibility for institutional need based aid anyway. That is NOT predicated on holding a green card.

even IF you get a $5800 Pell Grant, and a $6500 loan (as a second year student), you will still have $55,000 or so to fund. If you are lucky enough to actually get accepted, and your family has financial need…you could have yoir need met.

If you are NOT a green card holder, you will be an international and at all but five schools that meet full need…your ability to pay will be considered with your application for admission.

You are not any different than U.S. citizens who cannot afford expensive private schools. There are plenty of kids who cannot afford a $60,000 plus a year college education…so they choose something affordable.

There are MANY kids who don’t get accepted to the very generous schools that meet full need…so,those schools are not a choice.

It seems you are unwilling to look at some of the more affordable options being suggested here.

A 15.5 average is VERY high (A = 13-14, 15.5 probably places OP among the top students nationally.)

OP :
What’s the bac success rate at your school? I’d your school publishes it, what is the 'mention ’ rate? Are you in Euro or OIB?

Do you live in Paris?
What would you study in Paris6?

The issue is that the lottery favors people with degrees who are likely to be self sufficient quickly.

However you don’t have to be an American citizen to apply to a US college. You can apply as an international student. That’s what most French students do.

@MYOS1634 : I study in a high school which is located near Paris, in the district of “Val d’Oise” ( 95th ). The baccalaureate success rate is about 91%. I will study Computer Science the next year. I am in the S section but I’m not in IB or Euro mention. I don’t think I’m one of the best students of my country, but 15.5 is a good score … The lottery is a lottery and the only requirement is to have a high school diploma.

@thumper1 : I know that. I use net price calculators to see approximately the price I’ll pay …

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The net price calculators are NOT NOT NOT accurate for international students or for transfer students…unless that question is specifically asked on the NPC.

@thumper1 : The Vandy’s net price calculator asks if we are a transfer or not … I know NPCs are not accurate for international students.

That’s because Vandy meets full need for all accepted transfer students (except internationals…they don’t guarantee to meet need for ALL internationals at all).

@thumper1 : It’s for that reason I’m looking at others colleges which meet all needs like Vandy.

Cheers,

You would only be eligible for a Pell grant or federal loan AFTER you get the green card. Even after you win the lottery and get the visa, the green card can take a while. You are still going to have to report any money your parents make to qualify for federal funds.

I still don’t understand how a 16 year old can apply on his own for a lottery visa, how you will pay to come to the US, how you will afford all the fees for the green card.

@happymomof1

Can a 16 year old apply for a lottery visa himself?

I can’t find anything about age at state.gov , just education or work experience.

@happymomof1

He can’t apply even until he has finished with secondary school, right?

What are the odds he would have a green card quickly after applying…like prior to applying to colleges, no fir financial,aid?

I don’t think he has much chance, but b@r!um won the lottery a few years back and came here as a transfer student, so these things are possible.

To file for permanent residency, there are different fees for those 14+ than those under 14 who are applying with a parent. It doesn’t say if the minor (14-18) can apply without parental permission.

Just the fee for the I485 is $1250. That doesn’t include the other costs that might be added like for documents, passports, visa fees, temporary housing, etc. Affording college will be the least of his problems.