Freshman Housing issues

<p>So, I have been reading with great interest the issues that freshman have been having with housing......</p>

<p>Sent an email to the housing people; received a response that no-one is guaranteed housing....</p>

<p>What would you do if you were an OOS freshman applying to UTexas? I am aware that housing is not given out until July; how does one plan for attending? or does the overflow just accept that they have to find off-campus accomodations?</p>

<p>I am advising a NJ student who LOVES this school; his parents are concerned about the housing situation (as, honestly, I think they should be)......</p>

<p>I know that you can apply for housing as soon as your admissions application is considered "complete"; does that increase your chances you will be placed in on-campus housing or is it a random crap-shoot (as it appears?)</p>

<p>Thanks, in advance, for your help....</p>

<p>It is first come first serve, so that means that if you pay your $50 housing deposit in October, you will get priority over someone who pays their $50 housing deposit in April. Also if he is an incoming freshman, he will also get priority over transfer students for housing. So apply as soon as possible.</p>

<p>The folks without housing are the ones who applied for housing in April. Everyone else was accommodated. Some freshmen don’t even apply for on campus housing, but instead go into one of the many private dorms. Many, many UT students live in rental apartments or houses. Pay the $50 when applying to UT by the Dec. 1st deadline and on campus housing will be assured.</p>

<p>Thank you for the quick responses…</p>

<p>One more question: you mention private dorms; which freshman tend to live in them?
Is it like UWisconsin where they are primarily “coasties” (i.e. east and west coast kids rather than in-staters)?</p>

<p>The private dorms are dorms but off campus and not owned by UT Austin. Look up Castilian and Dobie, they are private dorms near campus for more details (there is one more but I can’t remember the name). Sometimes students want to live in the private dorms because they only have to share bathroom with like 3 other people instead of community restroom. Pricing is pretty similar as well. Also there is more room options in the private dorms.</p>

<p>A quick search pulled up these private dorms. [Welcome</a> to the Austin Private Dormitory Association](<a href=“http://www.austindorms.com/]Welcome”>http://www.austindorms.com/)</p>

<p>UT cannot possibly house all the freshmen. I know of OOS students who lived in the dorms, so I don’t think it is a matter of in state versus out of state. It is all a matter of when you applied and paid the housing fee.</p>

<p>I know of freshmen students who choose to live in the private dorm. Most are not that far from campus – the distance to class is comparable from most private dorms to many of the UT owned ones.</p>

<p>Here is website created by UT marketing students.
They compare all types of housing they consider decent (housing like Godall Wooten is not included)
[University</a> of Texas at Austin (UT Austin) - Freshman Support - ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■.com](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■.com/ut/#housing/options/compare/]University”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■.com/ut/#housing/options/compare/)</p>

<p>My daughter applied for UT in September, her last SAT was October 1 so she was accepted automatically in the beginning of October. And I, after reading some topics here about housing, made her apply for housing in October. She got her first choice.:slight_smile:
Between the moment she was accepted and the moment she applied for housing (about a week) she received several flyers in the mail from private dorms like Castilian that tried very hard to sell their rooms to us.
It was my understanding that before this year’s extraordinary circumstances private dorms around UT reached their capacity by the end of August and to find housing was never difficult. </p>

<p>A friend of my daughter was not sure if she would go to UT or elsewhere and she applied for housing in April. She was in complete and happy oblivion about housing situation until the beginning of June when my daughter suggested to be roommates. This was the first time she discovered that she had a supplemental contract and what supplemental contract meant. :slight_smile: She started looking for private dorms in June and was able to choose between any of them, all had rooms available.</p>

<p>All this trouble with housing right now is because there are people who applied for housing in the end of April, in May and even June and did nothing after that. They are teenagers and they just thought that UT would take care of everything since they applied for housing. They never bothered to go to UT website and read what to expect and when and they did not worry til middle of July when most of students got their room assignments and they finally discovered they did not have any contract, even supplemental.
And then all the trouble started. :)</p>

<p>We signed a lease at the Castilian for 2011-2012. Unfortunately, we agreed to re-lease for the 2012-13 school year before we realized the number of unresolved or inadequately resolved yet serious problems. I want to warn those considering the Castilian as to what is not mentioned on the tour or the website, and I also suggest some alternatives to students and parents. The issues included:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Five weeks without hot water- The Castilian is 45 years old; it is not properly repaired. We immediately realized there was no hot water in my d’s room last year. We reported the problem before regular move-in day, but instead of fixing it, management denied there was a problem. Only after weeks went by did management stop denying there was no hot water, but then, according to the Operations Manager, it took two weeks to “trouble-shoot” the issue: “calcified pipes” due to poor maintenance. The result: 5 weeks with no hot water. A few “community bathrooms” were to be shared by hundreds of residents only at scheduled times until the problem was fixed. The handful of over-used community bathrooms could not be kept clean. No compensation was offered.</p></li>
<li><p>One week without any water-Another poorly-maintained pipe for which the Castilian, not the City, was responsible. It burst below the building last year, resulting in no water at all (no bathrooms, not even at night, and no laundry) for a week. The Operations Manager said it was “an accident,” and asked , “what did you expect us to do?” The clear answer: maintain and repair pipes before they burst. The Castilian provided 5-gallon jugs of water to students, but that does not replace showers, toilets or washing machines. No compensation and no refunds were offered.</p></li>
<li><p>Other repair issues - last year, overhead pipes burst on two floors, resulting in water flooding the rooms. There is water damage on the ceilings of other floors. There are signs on the 10th floor of the parking garage warning students not to park there because the overhead pipes may burst. This year, the spout of my d’s tub is held on with masking tape. Last year, the air conditioning window unit in her room poured dirty water into her room, causing the room to smell of mold. The wet carpet ruined her new book bag and several books. This year, toilets were clogged on move-in day, and air-conditioners were not working at all in several rooms. My daughter’s “upgraded” furniture (an extra fee) was heavily gauged and scratched. Last year, one resident paid for, but did not receive the furniture upgrade and was simply told she would have to wait weeks until the Castilian might be able to comply. There was no compensation.</p></li>
<li><p>The lack of adequate security-the Castilian lacks a card-access, one point of entry security system. Anyone can enter the elevators on the ground floor during the day and evening, and although the front elevators are turned off late at night, leaving only parking garage access, there is a single security guard in the parking garage who cannot be everywhere at once. No one notices who comes in or out of the elevators and into the stairwells on the eleventh floor. Despite numerous complaints, management ignores the situation year after year. Hundreds of homeless are fed by the church a block away; they have followed students into elevators and down hallways.</p></li>
<li><p>Lack of direction during an emergency - last year, the building’s alarm was tripped in the early morning hours. There was no direction from Castilian management or the RA’s. Students were unsure of whether the alarm was false or where they should go. There was no attempt to remedy this problem of lack of adequate direction during an emergency.</p></li>
<li><p>Parking problems - students may park in any space before a certain date; this year, it was September 5th. There was a “parking party” on September 4th, when students were to relocate their cars to their assigned spaces. My d’s space was already occupied by a resident who did not attend the “party.” My d tried that night and the next morning to move her car, but she was told she could do nothing until 10 a.m. She had class at 10 a.m. Her car was towed at 12:30. The management who staged the “party” made no attempt to: (1) give my d another space for the day until the situation could be worked out; (2) contact the offending resident whose information they had; or even (3) contact my d before her car was towed, knowing she tried to move her car. The offender’s car was not towed. Management’s response: the issue was “cut and dried.” In other words, she should have skipped class to move her car at 10 am, they were not going to help in any way. The cost of the tow was $200. </p></li>
<li><p>Internet fees- the Castilian does not provide free Internet service. The contracted service is not very good, forcing students to pay the premium rate ($395/year) to get even mediocre Internet service.</p></li>
<li><p>Other issues - the rooms on move-in date are not clean. Scrubbing the bathroom floors did not help. Last year, the bathroom cabinet was virtually unusable because the door was put on backwards. We asked it be fixed. It was not. The tracks for the closet doors were also not in proper repair, making it difficult to open and close them.</p></li>
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<p>For these and other reasons, we will not be back at the Castilian next year. For those looking for some alternatives to the Castilian, as a parent, I might suggest the following (I do not work for any of these facilities, I am an OOS parent):</p>

<ol>
<li><p>The Callaway House -opening Fall 2013. Located a block off campus, it is closer to many UT buildings than the Castilian. It will be brand new so, unlike the Castilian, there will not be massive debacles over pipes, water, air-conditioning. There will be a single, secure entrance point providing far greater security than the Castilian does. The suites will be clean, and the Internet and utilities are at no extra cost. There are options for shared bedrooms or private bed/bath in a four-bedroom suite. There will be a full-service dining hall with more meal plan options than the Castilian has. There will be professional staff on-site 24/7. There is a bi-weekly maid service and a parking garage. Downside: it is not built yet, but American Campus says they have not missed a move-in date yet.</p></li>
<li><p>The Penthouse at Callaway - opening Fall 2013. These are the top two floors of the Callaway House, with furnished apartments and full kitchens. Again, it will be new, secure, and clean. It is slightly more expensive, and utilities are not included. There are two- and three-bedroom apartments with private baths and parking garage access. The meal plan will be available to those who want it. Again, not built yet, but promised.</p></li>
<li><p>2400 Nueces - Another new furnished apartment complex a block away from the Castilian. One-four bedroom options. Full kitchens but no meal plans. 24-hour maintenance and a parking garage. Utilities are provided including Internet. Downside: not built yet, but construction seems farther along than Calloway House. </p></li>
<li><p>San Jacinto and the renovated parts of Jester, also Scottish Rite dorm.</p></li>
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<p>Hi, Rodney, this lays out the housing process step-by-step. Note that you can get in the priority line by paying a $50 non-refundable housing deposit as soon as your application has been submitted, i.e., you don’t have to (and shouldn’t!) wait until acceptance. [Applying</a> to Live On Campus | Be a Longhorn](<a href=“http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/freshmen/housing]Applying”>http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/freshmen/housing)</p>

<p>Hook 'em!</p>

<p>Thanks to Trytohelpmon</p>

<p>My daughter signed a lease at
2400 Nueces for 2013/14…</p>

<p>I wonder if I’m the only one who laughed until I couldn’t breathe about the name “parking party.” Anyone who has ever been within 50 miles of West Campus knows that parking there is anything but a “party.”</p>