<p>who got the application for it sent to them? im reaallly surprised that i got it.. and doubt that i will get in... but still!</p>
<p>anyone have experiences with the program? are advanced general chem and advanced organismal bio/adv cell bio a LOT harder than their regular counterparts?</p>
<p>I'm in the program. Pretty much everyone who gets invited gets in.</p>
<p>The difficulty difference between advanced and normal isn't large. The subject matter is covered at the same rate in case someone wants to drop out. The advanced section just goes a bit more in depth.</p>
<p>If you have other questions, just ask or message me.</p>
<p>thanks for the reply! it seems like a really great program, i hope i get chosen.</p>
<p>however i'm a little confused as to why i got the letter as it is explicitly states that minimum SAT 1 math score is 700. i didnt take SAT 1, but i got 30 on the math section of the ACT which is equivalent to 670 (im retaking on saturday if that helps)... maybe its because i got a 33 on the science section?</p>
<p>Yeah, that does seem quite strange. If you did not request an application but was sent an invitation, I don't think you'll have a problem getting in, most likely due to your science score and math/science APs. The minimum probably applies for those students who weren't invited but want to join the program.</p>
<p>BTW, what major are you?</p>
<p>socks, from your other thread I understand you are not a freshman. What year are you? Did you just get the invitation this year or was it earlier (what year)? Do freshman have the option of pursuing science honors beginning as a freshman?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>how do you get into this? i dont think i got invited but I have a 790 on math sat I, 720 math II sat 2, and 5 on AP bio so am i qualified? Is there an interview? Im a trustee and health promotion disease prevention major.</p>
<p>You're RHP. You're honors-everything. :)</p>
<p>I'd like to know how one gets invited for this as well. I didn't receive an app but I got a 770 on math for reg SAT I, 800 on SAT II, and 35 on the science portion of the ACT...</p>
<p>You can request an applicaton if you weren't invited: <a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/general_studies/fsh/application.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/general_studies/fsh/application.html</a></p>
<p>foil- i am not a freshman...i am a high school junior. but i will be a freshman in the fall</p>
<p>forsaken- well... i dont have any science AP's. at my school there are only 2 offered, AP bio for seniors and AP enviro for juniors (i'm in enviro right now, as well as honors chemistry.. so i dont have a score). i dont have any science SAT 2s either.
i put bio as my major when i applied</p>
<p>Freshmen can enter FSH as a freshman. Hence the name Freshman Science Honors. :)</p>
<p>There is no interview, just the application. I was never told of the exact requirements, but high scores in math and science are definitely needed.</p>
<p>Oh, I forgot to mention, FSH is only for students pursuing a major in the College of Letters, Arts, and Sciences and those in HP. So those of you who are engineers (ChemE, BME) aren't invited to FSH, although you CAN take advanced chem.</p>
<p>one of the items on the application is this:</p>
<p>"Pleast list excursions, investigations, activities or expert speakers you'd enjoy with other FSH students"</p>
<p>i really dont understand what they are asking for/expecting..</p>
<p>Oh, that stuff.</p>
<p>Basically, being in FSH allows you to take advanced bio and chem. FSH and TO are linked together by a organization called College Honors Society. CHS does pretty much nothing except organize events monthly, such as trips to Old Town Pasadena, book clubs with faculty, etc.</p>
<p>There is no right or wrong answer. Just list activities that you like to do and wouldn't mind doing with others.</p>
<p>wait is it hard to get in this honor program? i just received the app today from usc?</p>
<p>Nope, it's not hard. It's almost guaranteed if you were invited.</p>
<p>I'm a little worried about the classes...science classes like o-chem are notorious for harsh grades (for premeds) and I'm a little worried about how I'd do in the more advanced versions through the FSP. </p>
<p>Anybody have any input on the grading system? On a harsh curve? Same as regular classes, just have to work hard?</p>
<p>well it says that FSH follows the same classes as all sciencey freshman take... please correct me if i'm wrong but i'm under the impression that most do not take o-chem in freshman year..</p>
<p>I don't think there's even an advanced o-chem class - someone with more info correct me maybe?</p>
<p>I've only taken the advanced physics series, not the bio or chem stuff, but I think the general idea is that there's an expectation that most of the students taking the advanced stuff would get A's or B's in the regular course, so it shouldn't be too much harder grade-wise than that, so you're not punishing the students who elect to take the more advanced course.</p>
<p>But still, you're covering more advanced material at a faster rate with smarter people around you. You still have to put in a lot more work and effort if you expect that A or B. </p>
<p>Maybe someone who's actually taken the courses can comment...</p>
<p>Exactly. From the start, the professors say that almost everyone gets an A or B. Thus, there's no curve in the sense that if everyone earns an A, they'll all get As. On that note, first semester chemistry was graded very fairly, and the professor is one of best at USC. Bio was less so, but the majority still get As or Bs.</p>
<p>Of course, this doesn't mean that you don't have to do work.</p>
<p>O-chem is definitely not a freshman course. I'm not sure whether or not there is an advanced o-chem, but I do know that there is a Chem 322 and a Chem 325, and both are o-chem. I don't know what the difference is, as I'm only a freshman.</p>
<p>I think the difference is, one is for pre-med/bio and the other is for chem majors. The distinction seems a bit arbitrary, since in fact they are the exact same lecture class (i.e., it's one big lecture class with both 322 and 325 students in it) and the labs are different. I don't fully understand, but o-chem is about the furthest thing I need to know, so I never considered taking it :)</p>