<p>Your plan is seriously flawed. Your odds of transferring to a ‘name’ university given that you aren’t competitive for admission as a freshman are very, very low. So it would be best to pick a college where you COULD spend all four years and get a degree you would find useful. I do agree with informative’s posts on what schools to consider, including the private ones. Because your ‘second chance’ strategy is so unlikely to succeed, you better have a ‘third chance’ plan that involves actually finishing your degree at whatever college you end up at – thus it would be good to investigate more that “what are the better unis”. “Better” is what is strongest in your proposed course of study, has a geographic location you would like, has a size and campus feeing you like, and is affordable (sounds like you have that covered). No one can just say “better”. If that is what you want, you might as well just go by the rankings. Also… if you think the rankings are so flawed, then why is your whole strategy dependent on transferring to a college that is high in the rankings?</p>
<p>If you can give us a list of the specific target universities that you would plan to try to apply to as a transfer, someone might be able to come up with specific suggestions for your first two years. For example, Cornell U has very strong connections with the community colleges in NY State. So two years at one of those would be a good option. Likewise, there are formal transfer agreements between the community colleges in VA and the public universities in VA. If U of VA or VA Tech are target universities for you, then the VA community colleges should be on your list. And, as just about everyone knows, the CA community colleges are a good route into the U of CA system. Two years at one of the CA CCs with excellent grades could indeed get you into UC-Berkeley.</p>
<p>You also should consider re-posting some of your questions in the International Students Forum. There are sub-forums for a number of countries. If your country is represented there, that would be a good place to look for more country-specific advice.</p>
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<p>If you intend to attend a four year university, you should choose one that you are willing to graduate from, in case you are not admitted as a transfer to another school later.</p>
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<p>However, the out-of-state list prices of some of these public schools (e.g. Minnesota) are considerably lower than the list prices of some of the better known private schools (e.g. USC, NYU, etc.).</p>
<p>@intparent</p>
<p>My whole point of transferring is not for brand name. </p>
<p>You have misconstrued my plans and intentions.</p>
<p>For instance, UVA, Emory and Vandy are not well known globally. Most nvr heard of them outside US. Juz ask a foreigner outside of US. These very good unis r even rank low on most ranking leagues.</p>
<p>I know odds r lower.</p>
<p>But I’ve my rationale.</p>
<p>@happymomof1</p>
<p>Thx for ur reply!</p>
<p>But transferring from a better public uni should be easier to get into Cornell as compared to a cc in NY?</p>
<p>Its much more difficult to transfer to Columbia or Cornell from a NY cc as compared to transferring to UCB and UCLA from a ccc right?</p>
<p>@ucbalumnus</p>
<p>I have researched in depth and found out it is very possible to transfer between unis so long as one study hard and do well holistically in uni. </p>
<p>Smoother transition process in US as compared to other countries.</p>
<p>I’m aware of the price differences.</p>
<p>Again, to all who have commented or will be commenting on this thread, location does not matter.</p>
<p>I’m born and bred in a highly urbanised, very clean and cosmopolitan city with high efficiency and very low crime rate.</p>
<p>You can find ppl from most developed and developing countries in my city. Not kidding u.</p>
<p>I would prefer an urbanised or suburban city.</p>
<p>But for a start, greener pastures may be a good change. Who knows.</p>
<p>E.g. If u were ever to get into Dartmouth, which is located in a very rural area, but that is the best school u were accepted into. </p>
<p>Would u just blatantly strike it off ur list bcuz of its location without further consideration? </p>
<p>Would u not compromise on its location and take other more significant factors like quality of education into account?</p>
<p>Any other responses anyone?</p>
<p>All r welcome to contribute!</p>
<p>Hope this will help others on cc as well! (:</p>
<p>Thank you in advance! (:</p>
<p>I think you like to talk to yourself… and haven’t really asked a “real” question here.</p>
<p>@intparent</p>
<p>Isnt my Q clearly stated in my previous posts here on this thread?</p>
<p>FYI, the Q is below. But a few digressed elsewhere instead. Although I can understand their intentions r well-meant.</p>
<p>In response to ur previous reply:
For instance, UVA, Emory and Vandy are not well known globally. Most nvr heard of them outside US. Juz ask a foreigner outside of US. These very good unis r even rank low on most ranking leagues. But does that mean these r lousy unis? This just shows how contentious and dubious ranking tables r. Many r loosely based on research output, inaccurate data. U gotta factor in time lapses, red tape and bureaucracy involved in various ranking leagues too.</p>
<p>Pls kindly read thru the posts on this thread to get a fuller picture instead of looking thru a doorhole.</p>
<p>Hi everyone!</p>
<p>Let’s revert to answer the original Q pls.</p>
<p>From my shortlisted list, Which r the better unis to apply to?</p>
<p>Can you pls help me choose the top 10 unis amongst my shortlisted list?</p>
<p>Arizona State University
Indiana University Bloomington
Iowa State University
Purdue University
University of Arizona
University of Iowa
University of Oregon
University of Maryland Baltimore County
North Carolina State University
University of Minnesota Twin Cities
Michigan State University
University of Alabama
University of Maryland College Park
University of Massachusetts Amherst
University of Georgia
University of Pittsburgh</p>
<p>Thx a lot!</p>
<p>Repeating yourself is not going to get a different response… your plan doesn’t make sense to those reading your posts. Also… typing in full sentences and with proper syntax might make people take your comments more seriously. “Text speak” isn’t particularly easy to read, and it is hard to follow your lengthy but somewhat scrambled posts.</p>
<p>@intparent</p>
<p>That’s because you have misconstrued my plan and intentions.</p>
<p>Its common for people to use internet lingo on cc. Thanks for your suggestion anyway.</p>
<p>So that’s why I am asking moderators and fellow forummers to revert and answer the original question instead.</p>
<p>No, it is not common to use “Internet lingo” here. It is common to use standard written English. Your choice of writing style makes it difficult for us to understand your questions, and makes me wonder if your English skills really are up to the level needed to succeed in college here.</p>
<p>If you want help, you need to express your questions with greater clarity.</p>
<p>Top 10 unis for what?! … Having no basis, one can’t even answer which of these unis are “best” … You’re essentially asking for the ranking, without using the ranking</p>
<p>Columbia and Cornell are generally considered reach-for-everyone schools, for frosh or transfer applicants.</p>
<p>So, among this list, you should consider which schools you most want to stay at all four years and graduate from, since that is the most likely outcome. I.e. which of the schools has the best academic fit for you (intended major?) and best non-academic fit for you (whatever else you prefer in a school) at a price you are willing to pay.</p>
<p>You have not given anyone enough information about your preferences for anyone to give a reasonable answer to your question.</p>
<p>I’d take off </p>
<p>Arizona State University – by far the lowest scores
Purdue University – too rural, you say you want a city
University of Arizona – low scores
University of Oregon – low scores
University of Maryland Baltimore County – not a flagship, doesn’t have the rep of the other schools
Michigan State University – low scores
University of Alabama – low scores</p>
<p>And keep</p>
<p>Indiana University Bloomington
Iowa State University
University of Iowa
North Carolina State University
University of Minnesota Twin Cities
University of Maryland College Park
University of Massachusetts Amherst
University of Georgia
University of Pittsburgh</p>
<p>For your 10th, I’d add Oregon back in if you’re looking at location, </p>
<p>Alabama if you want a safety with predictable admissions</p>
<p>or UMBC if you’re interested in STEM.</p>
<p>Neither the US News ranking nor a score-only ranking is likely (for the most part) to expose significant, relevant differences among these schools. A 50-point spread in the collegiate SAT average is not all that significant, especially for large universities with students of widely varying ability and motivation. You could wind up in smaller, livelier classes with better students at UMBC (1310 75th percentile M+CR) than at UMCP (1390 75th percentile M+CR). </p>
<p>If you want to choose for “quality of teaching, quality of education, quality of academics and intellectual environment”, then it is quite possible that none of these schools are among your best choices. A private liberal arts college such as Earlham or Centre College would give you much smaller classes, more faculty attention, and perhaps a more serious undergraduate intellectual environment than most of these universities. It may be easier to justify a transfer out of a small LAC if that’s what you want after 2 years. However, since you haven’t said anything about your academic interests or cost considerations, it’s hard to say if they would be appropriate recommendations for you.</p>
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<p>Iowa State and NC State aren’t flagships, either. As I think CuriousJane recognizes, UMBC does have a pretty good reputation for STEM education.</p>
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<p>Why don’t you explain what you’re trying to do? As I understand it now, this is by far the least thought out plan I’ve heard on CC.</p>
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<li><p>You want to go to a university for 1-2 yearsars.</p></li>
<li><p>You’re trying to choose your list of universities based on their “quality of education” but you won’t tell us the major because you don’t think that has any relevance for whatever reason. Maybe you’re under the impression that all the schools on your list are equally good at all of the majors they offer. But they’re not.</p></li>
<li><p>After you go to this university you want to transfer out after 2 years for no apparent reason (because you haven’t told us why). This won’t work by the way. I for some reason doubt your ability to do extremely well enough to transfer out to a prestigious college, which by the way, is much harder than applying as a freshman.</p></li>
<li><p>For some strange reason you ONLY want to apply to public colleges. Again, you give no reason for this.</p></li>
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<p>So how about you explain WHY you:
a) won’t take intended major into consideration
b) want to transfer out after 2 years instead of applying with the purpose of staying at the same college for 4
c) are only applying to public colleges</p>
<p>Then maybe people would be able to help you better.</p>
<p>OP’s typing style is kinda annoying.</p>
<p>and there’s so many inconsistencies and lack of logic as the guy above has pointed out…</p>
<p>makes me think he’s a bad ■■■■■.</p>