Frustration, and unfortunately nothing I can do

<p>So this kid from my school, an oustanding athlete, has just been recruited to HYP. He has decent grades (3.7) and sub-2000 SATs, but he is still by no means dumb. Just my school has so many intelligent people applying to the college that he got recruited to and I feel like some of their chances are ruined. This is really bugging me. He picks a lot of fights, is very abusive, and wrote an essay in English class a few years ago that compared him to everyone else in the class- basically, he wrote a page about every person and scrutinized their personalities in order to make himself look better. He made up a lot of stuff and still got a good grade- making everyone else look bad.</p>

<p>IDK what to do. I'm obviously not going to go tell anyone. But I really wish that I could do something about this.</p>

<p>Oh and also-- my school had someone who was recruited for the same sport to the same school last year (and is now attending). Does this make any difference?</p>

<p>This is just the way life is…not fair and very frustrating. It is no different from colleges recruiting minorities in order to show they are trying to increase their diversity. In a perfect world colleges would only be accepting the most qualified students not less qualified applicants because of their athletic ability or the color of their skin.</p>

<p>Being recruited doesn’t mean he’ll get in.
And there’s nothing you can do about it anyway. Concentrate on your own app.</p>

<p>It sucks, I know. There are plenty of people who you wouldn’t think belong in the ivies who are accepted anyway. But they pick who they want to pick, so its better to just move on and worry to much about it.</p>

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<p>This greatly overstates any effect on the chances of the other students in your class. Generally, they’ll be compared to the large pool of applicants without regard to what high school they come from. If they’re qualified, they get in.</p>

<p>However, I agree that if this student is a real piece of work and continues down that path in college, it’s possible that FUTURE students from your school could be affected (unfortunate, but true, especially if this person was high profile and brought shame on the university).</p>

<p>So what. He deserved it because he puts his work in. Good things dont necessarily happen to good people…</p>

<p>The “inteligent people” are actually more likely to be stuck up and mean. Who are you to meddle in his college application chances? Mind your own business is the common proverb that is applied to this situation.</p>

<p>He is definitely going to get in. This kid at my school got a letter from Yale Lacross coach, stating that as long as he maintains a 3.3 and a 1800 on SAT, he will be accepted.</p>

<p>As far as I’m concerned, he may be the smartest kid in your grade; you claim he picks a lot of fights yet obviously have escaped discipline, requiring either connections or a very sharp mind and tough.</p>

<p>You will see these situations many time in life. Keep out of them an do your best to get ahead o your terms.</p>

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<p>Wow 0.0 Anti-intellectualism for the win! How does he deserve anything?</p>

<p>Why are you so concerned with what happens to him? Sounds like jealousy to me.</p>

<p>“Anti-intellectualism”, cries the person who implies that athletes don’t deserve anything.</p>

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<p>I made no such implication. I’m referring to: </p>

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<p>So apparently he is not a good person, but he deserves “it” (Acceptance with comparatively incredibly low stats?) because he “puts his work in” (works hard?)? It doesn’t matter either, we need diversity in schools. How about stuck up and mean athletes who are less sophisticated? Way to be avant-garde.</p>

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<p>Yes, let’s not concern ourselves with hiring practices either–who cares if they might be unfair?</p>

<p>I just had a thought…</p>

<p>Ivies can’t give athletic scholarships because of Div III rules, but they give free rides to those with lowish incomes. That seems to me to be an “end run” around the “no athletic scholarship” rule, since it’s not hard to find athletes that come from homes with lowish incomes.</p>

<p>Haha there was a kid exactly like that at my school who got recruited to HYP, but then got his admission rescinded for getting arrested for drugs. lmao.</p>

<p>relax - if Harvard wants this kid for his athletics there is nothing you can do to prevent it. As for his affect on you, if Harvard wants you they will still admit you.</p>

<p>At D’s school, in the 9 years before D applied only 2 kids were ever admitted. So when both D and her friend were both applying we felt bad that the two kids were “competing” for that one rare spot. To everyones shock, both were admitted.</p>

<p>Concentrate on your own application and ignore what is going on with this other student.</p>

<p>D had a classmate (girl one) whose mother is a PR agent. In 9th grade she and another girl (girl 2)made a short safety film. Mom managed to make this film g1’s road to stardom. Meanwhile, g2 was given no credit, and when she asked to have her name used as co-creator, g2 and friends were so mean that g2 finally moved to another school. G1’s Mom was at school screaming whenever D didn’t get the best of everything, without earning it. She won many well known national teen awards and had her pick of colleges, even with mediocre grades. </p>

<p>Moral of the story, life isn’t fair, maybe the wheel of karma will catch up with her one day.</p>

<p>this is a joke. Might be wrong but isnt Penn division I sports?</p>

<p>and also, athelete especially on Varsity put in alot of work (15 hrs + a week including games). Why is it surprising that they can get in with comparatively lower stats? </p>

<p>My point: If you are threatened by this, its to think to yourself about what you did wrong during your high school years. Maybe you should of applied for a Westinghouse or do sports.</p>

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<p>Because many other people with a lot higher stats get rejected when they spend 15+ hours a week helping other people.</p>

<p>From my D’s school last year, 2 went to Harvard, 2 to Yale, 2 to Princeton, and 4 to Stanford. If they want you, they’ll take you, if they don’t want you, they won’t, but it won’t be because of the jock.</p>

<p>aigiqinf, you’ll find hiring practices “unfair” also - the graduate with the best grades won’t necessarily get the best jobs. That athlete, assuming he has decent (not stellar) grades in college may get the job ahead of you too. Companies hire based on personality, how well you present yourself, etc, not on stats. Colleges and companies will take who they want, it may not seem fair, but the OP is right in that there is nothing s/he can do.</p>