FSU's turn to be criticized...

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<p>Florida State recently beat a team whose players are much older than the average college student.</p>

<p>Baghdad, How exactly does TK have an integrity issue here? Where did he transgress?</p>

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Kind of answered your own question with your statement:</p>

<p>“I hope the next Florida State University president can restore the public trust in the oldest school in Florida.”</p>

<p>Again, TK, as the President of “THE” Florida State University (emulating OSU?!?) is not responsible for any of his employee’s actions? Not trying to get personal, but say your outstanding med school attending child was seriously wronged by a prof. Would you stop at just the prof? Wouldn’t you, if given the opportunity, go to the President with an appeal? NCAA uses the term “Institutional Control” Who is the head controller at FSU?</p>

<p>TK reported the issue to the NCAA. TK may be ultimately responsible as president, it may have occurred on his watch and he’s resigning. That’s not a lack of integrity that demonstrates integrity.</p>

<p>P2N,</p>

<p>Is not a person’s integrity questioned when they fail to take responsibility for their actions or inactions when NOBODY is looking? Why didn’t he resign first and then report the infractions? No, he got caught and only resigned when he lost trustee support.</p>

<p>No. Captains don’t walk the plank when they discover the crew accidentally piloted the ship onto a sandbar. The captain gets the ship off the sandbar and assesses the crew. The captain then holds crew members responsible if necessary - if the problem is merely an error that indicates training is needed or a mistake that warrants punishment. The owner of the ship then decides if the captain gets a promotion or a pay dock for any damage to the ship or loss involved in performing his job. A lack of personal integrity is evidenced when the captain lies about the ship beaching on a sandbar or exaggerates the work the ship has done in order to receive more pay to the owner. </p>

<p>In the other thread you wrote:

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<p>You seem to be confusing personal integrity with something else or perhaps you come from a culture where any shame is corrected with the commander committing something like seppuku. Sorry, even as an embarrassed FSU alumnus I don’t expect the university president to disembowel himself because a staff member screwed up. If you read the transcript of the NCAA hearing you find the staffer is apparently a concerned professional and the corrective action by the university was determined to be removal.</p>

<p>Some of you huge state school posters seem to have a problem with people of color and ethnicity. First your Gator buddy 'bick won’t ever come clean about “less than stellar students”</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-miami-florida/732689-university-florida-president-cooks-rankings.htmlexplain[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-miami-florida/732689-university-florida-president-cooks-rankings.htmlexplain&lt;/a&gt; </p>

<p>Now, in trying to bolster your argument, you reference what you perceive may be my “culture” and bring in seppuku. The inference being your superior White Western culture does all those actions you listed first before it would sink as low as what an asian (you put in the Japanese word, I didn’t) culture would.</p>

<p>Ok, since you think it is my culture which shapes my view, I will give you an example of my culture and how it deals with leaders not having possessing integrity: [Nuclear</a> missile commander ousted at Air Force base | KBCI CBS 2 - News, Weather and Sports - Boise, ID Boise, Idaho | National & World News](<a href=“http://www.2news.tv/news/national/64359592.html]Nuclear”>http://www.2news.tv/news/national/64359592.html)</p>

<p>And oh yes, my skin color and gender are the same as the ousted colonel. A core mission of a missile wing is nuclear deterrence. He failed to maintain it. What is FSU’s mission? Wouldn’t you say an incorruptible maintenance of academic standards?</p>

<p>That being said, look at the dictionary definition of integrity <a href=“http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/integrity[/url]”>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/integrity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Funny, there is that incorruptible word again. TK represents more than personal integrity (paying his bills on time, for example) he represents FSU institutional integrity. FSU sacrificed its institutional reputation, don’t you agree?</p>

<p>No, I don’t agree and I resent your intimations of racism. Screwing up with nuclear weapons is slightly more significant than students getting inappropriate help from a tutor. If you cannot fathom these differences this discussion is pointless.</p>

<p>P2N,</p>

<p>Resent? If you don’t like it, don’t bring your bias to the argument. </p>

<p>TK: “I’m embarrassed to be here”</p>

<p>Case closed</p>

<p>Congratulations, Baghdad. Instead of weighing in on the educational issues concerning Florida (which includes your University of Miami) with perhaps opinionated, but interesting discussion and debate, you now call those who may disagree with you racists apparently because you just don’t have much else to use in your argument and you seem unable to grant any credence to others in the discussion, apparently in some effort to feel better about yourself.</p>

<p>There are some posters who do this on CC and they generally have little substance to add to the discussion and really don’t care about the schools they represent. Usually they are rapidly identified and ignored.</p>