<p>the business college is pretty good...top 30 for business schools..but very small, not that well known out of business</p>
<p>I think duke is the perfect size and has plenty of opportunities as well as excellent job placement...but because of parents assets/incomes..i am unfortunately nowhere near qualified for fin aid</p>
<p>but full tuition is an issue fo rus and they can pay for it but it would be a pretty big burden....i feel so bad asking them for 55 grand (if not more) every year...</p>
<p>Go to duke. as parents, i hope, they would do anything and everything to send you to a school by which you have worked so hard for. If you do not qualify for fin aid at all, it must mean your parents are making a decent amount of money. Ask them to go to duke, be selfish, now but repay them when your out.</p>
<p>before this year my parents always said finance for college wasn’t a problem</p>
<p>my dad’s in the financial business and my parents lost so much money in their life long investments over the last couple of months that I just don’t know how to approach them about the topic…but I didn’t request any fin aid at duke</p>
<p>Im sure you worked your ass off to get into duke, as it is a wonderfull school (also one im trying to get in to). and for this your parents will understand.</p>
<p>Speaking personally, my mother lost alot of her investments in the economic times, and im talking six figures. However, i can tell you now. That my mom would sell her hair and donate blood to put me through college. As i become a parent in my later years, i will do the same. </p>
<p>Good luck with the talk, I hope everything works out for you!</p>
<p>the business college isn’t bad at all…lol the full ride is a full merit scholarship with a lot of advantages…like I will have my own advisor…they give me money to travel…but I just don’t know if that beats duke</p>
<p>If it’s a full merit scholarship plus money to travel plus your own advisor… then that sounds pretty good. Sounds to me like you’d be at the top of the pack at this school… and top 30 isn’t exactly “bad”. </p>
<p>Is this a school where you could see yourself? Have you visited? If so, did it seem like a place you might want to spend four years?</p>
<p>Have you visited Duke? You should if you haven’t already.</p>
<p>You can’t go wrong with either school. You really can’t. But, your choice seems to be about the “better” school vs. the “free” one (btw, free at a top 30 is pretty awesome!). Don’t make your choice based on which is ranked higher; make your choice based on whichever fits you best. </p>
<p>If you end up choosing Duke, there’s a possibility you might regret it when you’re graduating with some debt. If you end up choosing the top 30 school, there’s a possibility you might regret it if you don’t end up enjoying it.</p>
<p>However, if you like both schools equally, choose the one that’s free, because it’s, well, free.</p>
<p>Typical student advice “go to Duke, it is sooooo cool”.</p>
<p>Typical parent advice “take the money and run”. Especially with all the bells and whistles they are offering! This place really wants you.</p>
<p>My question is: What other options remain besides Duke and the place with the full-ride? </p>
<p>Do you have any options that won’t be as inexpensive as the full-ride, but will be much more affordable than Duke? How well do you like any of them?</p>
<p>Take the full ride for undergraduate school, unless a small school will make you nuts. Small schools really are their own breed and you need to know that. On the other hand, undergrad is like high school used to be and you’re going to want to go to grad school. It will be good to have some money for that when the time comes. Trust me. You seem bright and considerate and aware. I’m sure you are forward-thinking enough to see the value in having something left for your MBA, which is the current version of the business undegrad degree from twenty years ago. What are the B-school acceptances like for the full-ride school??? This is the question you want to ask yourself.</p>
<p>dnlgao – don’t forget everything goes full circle.</p>
<p>Suppose your mother does, as you wrote: “sell her hair and donate blood to put me through college”.</p>
<p>Now, fast forward 25 years. Your mother is trying to retire, but doesn’t have enough money saved to supplement her social security checks… so she has to keep working. You, having gone to “OH MY GAWWDDD!!! I’m so happy mom sacrificed to send me to Duke!!!” are saddled with a mortgage, two car payments, and saving for college for your OWN kids. Or worse, sacrificing Mom find herself in poor health so she CANNOT keep working even though she needs to. She must stop working and cannot make her monthly bills.</p>
<p>What do you do? What… do you do? Help mom out because she wasted money on your prestigious college, or continue saving for your own kids? You see, you could be hurting your own kids by accepting your mother’s sacrifice.</p>
<p>What do you do??? Nothing is so simple in real life. DEBT IS AN UGLY TASKMASTER.</p>
<p>Well there are a number of considerations here. First, Duke doens’t offer business as an undergraduate major. What do you want to major in at both Duke and the other school?For example, if you were to major in accounting, it wouldn’t matter.</p>
<p>Secondly, what is the financial picture of your family? Will paying the full tuition at Duke compromise the retirement for your family? If so, don’t go to Duke.</p>
<p>Go to duke. as parents, i hope, they would do anything and everything to send you to a school by which you have worked so hard for. If you do not qualify for fin aid at all, it must mean your parents are making a decent amount of money. Ask them to go to duke, be selfish, now but repay them when your out.</p>
<p>That gives America the name “entitlement generation”. I hope, but do not expect my parents to do so much for me, even knowing it would not produce anything close to a burden. Private education is a familial issue. One can think about it this way, similar to your way, is that anyone making over eighty thousand can afford it (I mean people can survive off of thirty thousand, right?). </p>
<p>When one says “we can afford it” there is a whole spectrum of possibilities. If it is anything remotely similar to what I stated above then I do not think you have the right to so quickly support the expensive option. Reading his post, I assume his parents can afford it without cutting down everything, yet downsizing. That is, again, a familial issue. </p>
<p>As for the original poster: May I ask which school? If it is recognized within the business world and will land you a good job before you go on for an MBA then I do not believe paying full for Duke is worth it. It will also save enough money for you to not feel guilty when you go to a private grad school.</p>
<p>I’m going to disagree. First of all, many schools are unable to grant aid to families who otherwise cannot pay full tuition. Just because they do not qualify does not mean that they are affluent.</p>
<p>Secondly, that last phrase is much easier said than done. Debt can pile up.</p>
<p>Thirdly, a full ride at any school is great, let alone a top 30 business school. Just based on the knowledge you have given us I would suggest the business school.</p>
<p>But you need to examine this further…what is it at Duke that you like so much? Which school will be the better fit for you? If you feel that Duke is the perfect school for you than by all means go for it. But don’t underestimate the importance of the financial factor.</p>
<p>"Now, fast forward 25 years. Your mother is trying to retire, but doesn’t have enough money saved to supplement her social security checks… so she has to keep working. You, having gone to “OH MY GAWWDDD!!! I’m so happy mom sacrificed to send me to Duke!!!” are saddled with a mortgage, two car payments, and saving for college for your OWN kids. Or worse, sacrificing Mom find herself in poor health so she CANNOT keep working even though she needs to. She must stop working and cannot make her monthly bills.</p>
<p>What do you do? What… do you do? Help mom out because she wasted money on your prestigious college, or continue saving for your own kids? You see, you could be hurting your own kids by accepting your mother’s sacrifice.</p>
<p>What do you do??? Nothing is so simple in real life. DEBT IS AN UGLY TASKMASTER. "</p>
<p>First of all, calling the money spent toward a brilliant education at a prestigous college is far from a waste.</p>
<p>Second of all, you dont know me, you made some judgments about me and you have no idea what kind of person i am.</p>
<p>i can tell you now though, i will live in an apartment and eat ramen noodles, until my mother is taken care of and squared away. My family comes first to me above all other priorities.</p>
<p>I understand your arguments, however please do not try to stick anything to me. You dont know me.</p>
<p>Well, now you’re in quite a bind. Your mother needs support, and you’re trying to save for your own children to attend college, all because your mother spent money she could not afford to spend on your Duke eductiona.</p>
<p>So, what do you do – take education money from your children to support your mother, or …not?</p>
<p>Don’t take this personally… this is a hypothetical that happens ALL the time.</p>
<p>I would help my mother out as much as I could but it is her responsibility to take care of herself. By having children, she should have known in advance that she would have to save up money in order to raise them and send them off to college. This is her RESPONSIBILITY as a parent. If Duke didn’t give this individual any FA, that means his/her parents are in a relatively well off financial position. Even if takes some squeezing, they could send their child to Duke.</p>
<p>If you don’t want to spend money on your kids, then don’t have them. Otherwise, you must learn to be a good parent and know that the future of your children must always come first.</p>
<p>That sounds very entitlement-ist. I am coming from a family where I will hopefully not face this issue, yet if my parents say no, I will fight it, but no more. It is their bread, and their earnings. In almost every state one can go to school in an honors program, or go OOS to get one. If having kids means paying 220k during age 18-22 there is a sad mistake there.</p>
<p>“I would help my mother out as much as I could but it is her responsibility to take care of herself. By having children, she should have known in advance that she would have to save up money in order to raise them and send them off to college. This is her RESPONSIBILITY as a parent.”</p>
<p>It’s not parents’ responsibility to send their kids to college. Parents may choose to do so, but if so, it’s a favor, not an obligation.</p>
<p>where did you get the idea that it was a parent’s responsibility to send an ADULT to a private college?</p>
<p>In many families (not mine), parents take care of a child until age 18. Then the child is sent off into the world… In many cultures, as soon as a boy becomes a man (anywhere from age 12 to 14), he becomes responsible to take care of the parents, not vice versa.</p>
<p>When exactly did parents become, in your mind, responsible to provide luxuries to adult children?</p>