<p>I want to go to med school, so I'll probably major in Chemistry or Biology. I'm not sure which school to go to though. For Montclair, I got a full scholarship. I heard Rutgers has a good reputation(academic-wise), but I did not get any scholarship and only a small grant. I also got into Montclair's Honors Program, but not into Rutgers'.</p>
<p>So Montclair State University or RU, considering I want to do pre-med.</p>
<p>i would do some research. see how many students that graduate from montclair go to med school afterwards and compare it to rutgers.</p>
<p>If you are financially stable, go to Rutgers. Montclair is a teaching school. I once visited Montclair and though the brochure said that Montclair had a premed program, it does NOT have a premed program. Even several of the professor in the science department, who the visitors had a group meeting with, said that they did not have a premed program.</p>
<p>rutgers has a better reputation for pre-med. and has a bigger percentage of kids going to medical school.</p>
<p>Definately Rutgers, especially for biology or premed if money isnt the driver. I think I would still do Rutgers even if I got nothing. Rutgers has a much better rep and certainly a better rep, the farther you get from NJ. My brother says sometimes even free isnt enough, I think that is the case here.</p>
<p>Yes Rutgers is a “good” school, MSU is also as good as Rutgers. Rutgers is just overrated… for medical school Montclair is a good choice…majority of students that go to Montclair go to med school…Montclair provides solid training and program for those interested in med school… and for those of u saying MSU is an easy school…get your facts straight MSU is a really challenging place…we are known to be a school with tough grading proffers so a 4.0 from MSU(which is quite impossible) will be as good as a 3.3 from Harvard or and ivy school. but don’t get me wrong Rutgers is an amazing school. I am just saying you can get the same quality of education at Montclair for a cheaper and more convenient price!!! o yeah we do have a premed program…its called something different here “HCP”(health careers program)… also student get involved as EMS,EMT and can volunteer at a nearby hospital (Mountainside Hospital) for hands on experience in the medical field.</p>
<p>^Oh ya definitely. Montclair definitely taught you well based on your grammar and poor english ■■■■■</p>
<p>roflmaoxqz, My son is a second year medical student at Drexel. He did his undergrad at West Chester University. Why WCU, - cost. Medical school is now about $50,000 a year. Do not easily discard a full tuition scholarship. Do you want to be anywhere from $200,000 to $300,000 in debt before you even own a home? Currently, first year interns and residents make about $60,000 a year. If you do a specialty, you will have at least 1 year of internship, then 2 or more years of residency followed by a fellowship. All of those years after 8 years of college and BEFORE you start your practice. Health care field and the rate of pay for physicians are changing. My husband is also a physician, so I know.</p>
<p>The most important things about getting into medical school are your MCAT scores and your GPA. Not where you go. If you do not perform well in college - by that I mean almost a 4.0. ( my son graduated with a 3.98) you can forget about it. No C’s. You can not ride a schools name to get you into medical school. You will be competing with all the top students from all universities. More than 50% of my son’s class did post-graduate work in order to get into Drexel. Montclair would be a fine choice, as long as you pull the grades. Yes, you must have health care related experience. You must show the admissions committee at the medical schools that this is a vocation, not a career.</p>
<p>“You can not ride a schools name to get you into medical school.” </p>
<p>This is true. My friend did undergrad at Harvard (within last 5 years) and could not get into med school. He had several C’s (and maybe even a D) on his transcript.</p>
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<p>From what i have read on Student Doctor Network ([Student</a> Doctor Network|An educational community for students and doctors spanning all the health professions.](<a href=“http://www.studentdoctor.net/]Student”>http://www.studentdoctor.net/)) which is a great source for getting into med school advice, the above is true. It is not about what you major in (aside from the pre-req classes like Chem, OChem, etc) it is all about your GPA and MCAT and your Extracurriculars which should show that you know what a medical career is all about. I would check that Montclair has a “pre-med” committee that helps students apply to med school…but consider saving the money because you are going to have to get loans for Med School.</p>
<p>@benjodassh0 - ur completely wrong in sooo many ways in ur post. But funniest part was “4.0 at montclair is just as hard as 3.3 from harvard” - lmao i rlly hope ur kidding. MAYBE a 4.0 at montclair is as hard as a 2.5 at Harvard. Montcclair is a step above a comunity college. Why don’t u check out it’s stats? Rutgers is a muhc better school in terms of selectivity, rigor, and average intellect of student. </p>
<p>@roflmaox- i’de go with montclair honors+full ride. While Rutgers is a better school than Montlcair, it’s still Rutgers; which is nothing special. If you said binghampton thatll be different cuz its the number one state school, but rutgers is simply not that great of a school and ull never be able to make it to a good med school- or even med school- b/c u said u went to rutgers. I’de go w/ MSU honors b/c 1) at least ur in an honors program. Genuises who couldve went to ivies r also in MSU and Rutgers honors programs- so it looks muhc better to go to montclair honors, than normal rutgers. 2) you’lle be surrounded with smarter kids than u would at rutgers in the MSU honors, and u’ll have all the great access of an honors program 3) U get a free ride! that just sounds cool saying it. </p>
<p>anyway, good luck in ur choice. and if u wouldnt mind posting ur stats so we can see what it takes to get full ride at MSU</p>
<p>@delmonico
The logic behind your reasoning to accept the offer to MSU is rather biased in my opinion. I guess you haven’t been reading your Daily Targum. Rutgers has recently teamed up with UMDNJ and will be working with them to in a way “takeover” one of their medical schools. Rutgers honors program is highly selectively, and although you have not been accept into the program, many of your classes are the same as students that are not in the honors program. Rutgers is currently one of the top research university, as well as, Michigan State University. For a person in the pre-med track, research is highly important and with various opportunities to conduct your own research or research with a professor, Rutgers is still a great option. As for being surrounded with smarter kids at MSU’s honors program, I’m uncertain if this is true but seems like more of a personal opinion.
If your looking to achieve a higher GPA though, MSU may be a better option but I am not qualified enough to give you an accurate answer. Rutgers’s science programs are arduous, and need a strong dedication but as long as you work hard and allocate sufficient time to studying Rutgers science programs should not be a problem.</p>
<p>I would go with Rutgers. Montclair doesn’t have a good reputation, only 31% of people graduate from Montclair in 4 years and overall only about 60% end up graduating. Go to this site: [College</a> Navigator - National Center for Education Statistics](<a href=“http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/]College”>College Navigator - National Center for Education Statistics) Grad schools consider the quality of your undergraduate degree, look at the comparisons of average sat scores, graduation rates</p>
<p>I agree I grew up in North Jersey, minutes away from Montclair and we all called it the 13th grade. It is not a competitive school at all. One of my friends went to Montclair for a semester because she got a full ride. She transferred out after a semester because (no offense to anyone)1) she felt the quality of students there wasn’t very good 2)she said our AP high school classes were way more challenging than anything she took at Montclair 3) she felt she wasn’t getting a quality education that classes were dumbed down so everyone could pass</p>
<p>@delmonico “If you said binghampton thatll be different cuz its the number one state school” I’m assuming you mean Binghamton University, the SUNY. It is most definitely not the number one state school and no where near. Berkeley is currently the number one state school, according to many rankings. I love some of these posts lol.</p>
<p>PS one might argue that going to Rutgers might be a better idea for the pure fact that they do not have minus grades. Meaning a B+ is 3.6! I’d also check out the ratemyprofessors classification of the school.</p>
<p>Montclair is nowhere near Rutger academically.</p>
<p>Rutgers would prepare you far better. Remember that MCAT score, being a factor in your med school acceptance, will be reflective of your academic achievement.</p>
<p>This thread is from 2009.</p>