<p>Thanks. This ain't a matter of Democrat vs. Republican. </p>
<p>Spread the word.</p>
<p>Blackdream, your logic just deteriorates with every post on this thread. Yes, there's some wrong that'll be worse, but shouldn't time be devoted to the eradication of all wrongs? If this is what people are passionate about stopping, don't hinder them by insisting there's worthier causes. Pursue what you think is right and let others do the same, you're both working for good causes. While I'm not too comfortable with the use of the phrase "Chinese bastards" (Why not just bastards? Not all Chinese people support this kind of thing, which is what that phrase seems to impy to me) please stop using your nationality and political stance as some kind of justification for your arguments, you're harming the image Chinese people and liberals if anything. Bigjake, I applaud you for taking action and writing to 60 minutes. I absolutely agree that all people should see this.</p>
<p>If ending the fur trade costs thousands of people jobs, and causes farms to go out of business; I'm sorry, I'd rather see a mink die then a family be out of work. However, if a farm can make the operation humane at an extra, but affordable cost, then they should do it. But again, I'd rather see people have jobs and an income than a mean, bastardly mink do whatever minks do. </p>
<p>It's all about balance, I will always take human well being over animal well-being, but if you can balance the two (ie. making animal processing more humane), then I'm all for it.</p>
<p>I just have no respect for groups like PETA, for every legitimate cause they may have, they ruin it with a Nazi like attitude of "everyone must think like us and live our lifestyle", regardless of practicality or consideration of any other human factors. That and I'm from the Cheese State and I think PETA would like nuke us off the map (the Packers, meat packing, dairy state, ;) ).</p>
<p>bigjake is right... blackdream,your logic is just....
i mean, why do you keep using your nationality as a justification? and the argument here is not about japanese in WW2 or conducting medical experiments on humans. it doesnt matter which one is worse or not. the argument HERE is that animals are being harmed. your posts just keep going around the topic with justifications about your nationality or what is worse or what.
i<code>m not a vegetarian. but those animals, if they are going to be killed, i just wish they wouldn</code>t torture them by skinning them alive or hitting them on the ground. of course, humans can not live without killing animals. but do we need to kill more than we need? we don` t need fur coats. as for the chinese people who work on the farm, they could ATLEAST find alternative ways to kill animals...
and i just dont get your humans always>animals argument. so what, we can do anything to animals??we just shouldnt do more than we need.</p>
<p>It has been proven that people who are cruel to animals are far more likely to place lower value on all life...including human life. It is a sickness that must be stopped. Killing an animal to eat it is fine. Killing an animal for anything else is not. Pointing the finger to other countries and other problems is irrelevant. Being evil to animals is unacceptable and showing respect for living things does not hinder our ability to deal with other problems. And for those who argue that some people's financial stability depends on the killing of animals for useless purposes, all I can say is tough. There are hundreds of equally lucrative careers out there, murdering animals should not be acceptable. And that's coming from somebody that really doesn't like animals...excpet for dogs of course! hehe</p>
<p>Wow, most of you seem fine with the killing of animals for food, and object to the fur trade because it seems inhumane. Obviously you haven't heard of the slaughterhouse conditions in America. You know how you get your white meat? A pig's throat has to be slit so it can bleed to death before it can be processed. Same with cows. It's a sad situation, but really, its part of life; if you're so concerned with animal rights, it's probably smarter to start on your own home soil. Animals only have the rights we endow them.</p>
<p>Again, we always seem to be drifting off topic here. Ace, no one's talking about ending the fur trade period. Alexandre, while some of us may agree with you, taking the extreme stance that animals should not be killed for fur only pushes people with more moderate views away. Also, it IS an inconsistency to say "we can kill animals for food, but not for fur." </p>
<p>But again, the point is that animals should be killed humanely. Ace, i don't know where you're getting your information from. Most pigs and cows are electrically shocked unconscious - which is near-immediate - before they are processed. The only time an animal's throat is slit is when kosher meat is being prepared. In that case, the animal is completely at rest - does not expect or anticipate anything. The person comes up from behind, slits the main artery in the throat with one movement, and the animal dies quickly. </p>
<p>And its not smarter to start on your own home soil. Compared to other countries, I'm sure US animal farms have okay conditions. And at least no animals are processed alive. China has NO regulations period. God knows what is happening to the animals there.</p>