<p>While Medill is considered by many to be the most competitive for admission, the engineering and CAS schools actually have higher SAT scores. However, Medill probably puts less weight on test scores and more on other factors such as journalism-related ECs.</p>
<p>Sam Lee,
Any comparative stats on early decision applicants?</p>
<p>No, I don't. Keep in mind these stats are for those that "enrolled". The stats for the "admitted" are usually higher because it includes the HYPSM cross-admits who tend to choose those schools over NU.</p>
<p>Why no stats on Journalism and Education?</p>
<p>There are stats for all schools. Hmmm...I wonder if you were looking at the same table as I was.</p>
<p>anyone want to paste whats on the link? i couldnt get it to work</p>
<p>Oh, I see the data for all the schools, Sam Lee (for undergraduate levels). I guess my complaint was for the Graduate School (i didn't see communications, journalism or education). It seems that Education and Music are the easier schools to enroll in. Hmmm....</p>
<p><a href="http://www.adminplan.northwestern.edu/ir/databook/v36/V36_t14b.xls%5B/url%5D">http://www.adminplan.northwestern.edu/ir/databook/v36/V36_t14b.xls</a>
That's nice.</p>
<p>ugh... my computer must suck</p>
<p>joshb110, this is a link to the average faculty salary of the leading universities in the USA. NU ranks 7th, ahead of Columbia, Duke, Chicago, Yale and many many more.</p>
<p>I think location is quite a factor here. A Chicago citizen must need much more for a living than an Ithaca, NY one (check out Cornell).
It's therefore interesting to note that Uni. Chicago profs get 3,000 less on average. Their tuition for last year, however, was about 2,000 more than NU's.</p>
<p>There was a stats table for graduates' starting salaries somewhere. Can anyone link to it?</p>
<p>Even though "A Chicago citizen must need much more for a living than an Ithaca, NY one" a difference of $ 12,000 is too striking to be attributed to this factor only. And even if you are right that, hypothetically, 100 grand in Evanston equals 95 grand in Ithaca, if you were a sought after faculty member and all the other criteria of your choice between the 2 schools were on a par, which would you choose - the more expensive surrounding with the better salary, or the worse with the lower?</p>
<p>If you think the diffrence between the average salary of a faculty member at NU and UofC is big, check out Harvard and MIT - 14 grand although MIT is in Harvard's backyard or vice versa.</p>
<p>I am not familiar with costs in the States, but you're probably right since there are other factors like the total number of faculty members. Also, the higher faculty salary might mean that NU gives some of the money that (at other colleges) would have been spent on student scholarships to faculty. And there's often more to a job position than a $10,000 difference I guess. How much faculty make might mean many things, so it concerns professors, not us :).</p>
<p>That's why I'm more interested in what the school's graduates make.</p>
<p>None of the colleges that make that list even give out scholarships to students though (besides athletic). These institutions have billions of dollars in endowments so a few thousand dollars is not going to make a big difference to them. They offer what they have to offer to reel in the big-name professors.</p>
<p>"None of the colleges that make that list even give out scholarships to students though (besides athletic). "</p>
<p>What? We're talking about financial aid here - grants, loans, etc.</p>
<p>"How much faculty make might mean many things, so it concerns professors, not us"
Not quite true. Better salaries attract better professors. Better professors attract better students. And so with better faculty and student body the university obviously gets better and more highly ranked. This explains the logic of uc_benz's words:
"They offer what they have to offer to reel in the big-name professors."
Why pay more for the fish when you can pay less for the bait.</p>
<p>"And there's often more to a job position than a $10,000 difference I guess"</p>
<p>lorddragon04, of course there is. When you were admitted to both Cornell and NU, institutions with similar prestige, you chose NU over Cornell because of the better fin aid. A professor is not quite different from a college applicant I guess. If two universities have similar prestige, ranking, student body, faculty body etc. guess what factor becomes the most important for a professor to choose between them - money. So I would say that money matters a lot. Not only for us but for them as well.</p>
<p>Nasko, don't even mention my case. A professor can live quite OK with 80,000+ in Ithaca, and you know it's totally impossible for a student like you and me to pay the full costs of Cornell.</p>
<p>And God! The average does NOT tell you how much "sought after" professors get at NU. Nor does it tell about the faculty with lower salaries -- because not all professors are gurus in their fields. Rankings are so misleading. Better leave them to employers or whoever really cares. We know NU is a great school anyway and there should be other things to make us think so and be proud. :)</p>
<p>"The average does NOT tell you how much "sought after" professors get at NU. Nor does it tell about the faculty with lower salaries "</p>
<p>You are perfectly right. It doesn't tell me how much "sought after" professors get at NU, that's not the point of statistical average. But consider this - NU and MIT faculty members have the same average - 100 grand. If, hypothetically, MIT attracts more "sought after" profs with bigger salaries, then logically, as soon as the average salary at both institutions is the same, the not so "sought after" profs at NU will have better salaries, and consequently better qualification. Which is better - to have a more homogenous faculty body like NU in this case, or to have a more heterogenous faculty body like MIT? I think the answer is the former, since there is not much point to have 1-2 great profs and all the others to be less qualified, because you cannot get taught by those 2 profs only. So average salary matters after all, although it doesn't tell us the exact number for the different professors.</p>