Ok so I’m an in-state female, wanting to go into business and am not set to take pre-calc. I am going into my senior year with pre-calc and not AP and I don’t think I would survive AP calculus without taking the pre-class. I’m going to either have 10-11 AP’s with a 3.98/4.48 GPA with a 1450 on the SAT and a 32 on the ACT, along with several EC’s. By not taking AP Calculus, am I hurting my chance of getting in, despite going in with a business major?
Probably, but apply anyway because it is a great school, if a Georgia resident it is almost tuition free, and as a female you might get a slight boost.
If I recall correctly, your scores of ACT 32 & SAT of 1450 align correctly.
Georgia Tech considers state residency, while UGA does not.
To which other business schools do you intend to apply ?
Is it a class that will make or break me getting in? And I’m looking to stay in-state so UGA and Emory are my other possibilities. @Publisher
Georgia Tech prefers that applicants take the hardest courses available. No, it should not break you. What is your class rank ?
Also, consider Auburn & Alabama as they both offer substantial scholarship awards to applicants with your numbers.
University of Richmond should be considered for business.
Roughly 20/400 @Publisher
Top 5% is outstanding ! I think that your chances may be above average for an in-state applicant. Nevertheless, you need to apply to at least nine schools.
Consider out-of-state public universities which offer scholarships & have an honors college as well as a business school.
Here is an earlier thread on this topic: http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/18931503#Comment_18931503
While not contact Georgia Tech admissions & ask ?
http://admission.gatech.edu/first-year/academic-preparation does not specifically say that calculus in high school is required or recommended for GT. Other threads claim that admissions people have verbally told people that it is, but they apparently do not seem to want to put it in writing on the web site.
Haha I already planned on it first thing tomorrow morning!! Thank you so much for your input! @Publisher
Calculus is not required, but you are likely hurting your chances by not taking it. ~95% of incoming Tech students have taken calculus in high school and the business major at Tech requires a calculus class, although you can meet the requirement with a survey course. Because all majors at Tech are bachelor’s of science programs and Calculus is required for almost all of them, admissions rightly views having a proven ability to succeed in calculus as important. And because many Tech students change their major, admissions wants to make sure those they accept can thrive at the institute regardless of major.
You otherwise have a strong application, so maybe you’ll be part of the 5% who get accepted without calculus, but if I were you, I’d try to add a calculus class to your schedule. Tech has a summer admissions program where students can complete an introductory calculus class that also includes some pre-calculus before the rest of the class starts in the fall. If Tech otherwise likes your application, which they likely will, then by not taking calculus you may be increasing your chances of having to start in the summer. There is nothing wrong with the summer program, and if your don’t otherwise have plans for that summer, it’s a fantastic way to get introduced to college life and make some friends before fall classes start. That said, some students balk at the summer opportunity. If you’re one of them then you have even more incentive to try to take calculus during your senior year.
Since you are not planning to go into a stem curriculum it may not be a huge ding. That said a very large percentage of their excepted students take AP Calc. But they started a new reading process for admissions/applications last year and if your application is incredibly strong in other ways, it may balance out.
I would not count on it with a kid who just got rejected from the ditance calc program with a five on the bc calc exam and a 36 on the math act who had straight A’s. Nothing is a given at GT nowadays.
Georgia Tech admissions has gotten much more difficult over the past few years. However,Georgia residents are admitted at a higher rate than are non-residents.
@scubadive: Was the student in your example a resident of Georgia when rejected ?
Georgia Tech places serious weight on most rigorous courses taken.
Resident with most rigorous possible schedule. Eight Ap’s through junior year, three of which were the hard sciences all with fives. Scheduled to graduate with 13 at min. Go figure.
Was dictating the message above. Accepted, not excepted.
They are using a more holistic approach now with two sets of readers. Instate admit rate is significantly higher than OOS, but they still expect to see rigor in an applicant’s coursework.
@onysto47 You are hurting your chances of PASSING college calculus by not getting an introduction to calculus before college. Business majors need to pass the class. But you can make it up the summer before. You should pass precalculus and trigonometry before you take calculus, but you could try to take them simultaneously, maybe, just to get exposed to the ideas. Audit the calculus and take the precalculus for credit.
@scubadive what students did get into GaTech from your son or daughter’s high school and how do they compare to your student? Was your student intending a computer science major which is very overcrowded at GaTech? Because GaTech guarantees Georgia valedictorians from high schools over a certain size, get in, now a lot of other Georgia kids are excluded. I don’t agree with the new valedictorian guaranteed admission plan, but it passed the Georgia legislature, is my understanding. . I think GaTech does compare students from any given Georgia high school, and not everyone can get in, with straight As if they want to study a very popular oversubscribed major.
My eldest is a GT student. My younger one in hs got denied dual enrollment for their distance calc program. Far fewer kids got in the program compared to a few years ago. It was not for any major and purely stats based but still makes no sense based on what I know since I am under the impression four’s got into the program. So who knows. When my eldest applied as a freshman unscientifically speaking it appeared that not having BC calculus correlated to a lower chance of acceptance at our hs.
@scubadive So your youngest may still get accepted to GaTech , but just could not get into the distance math class?
Is he going to apply to GT this year? For sure sign him up for SAT subject exams, as I think they may help, but ask the high school counselors about it. Chemistry SAT subject exam will even place students out of the lab science requirement at GaTech, so it will count for credit, if he takes the Chemistry Exam. I think AP Chemistry will also work, or IB Chemistry HL exams also are awarded credit.
Its a really changed landscape on who wants to attend GaTech, with a lot of kids from FL, NJ, NY, TX, CO, and California trying to get in today. The reason is GaTech is that much better than our state flagship programs in CS in particular, and for California students, they simply cannot get accepted at Berkeley or UCLA, no room for all the good students out there, so they take Georgia seats! It is a bit unfair! (in our case, U of Colorado is only recently hiring CS faculty, in larger numbers, and Google came to Boulder so finally our program is getting stronger but no where near as good as GaTech )
I would call and check about the distance math class, since he has such amazing stats, it seems like a mistake ,especially if its on line, that he did not get in. Was there some deadline that got missed, or his high school forgot to submit his transcripts? Will he be a 12th grader next year? What math can he take at the high school? I sure hope you can straighten that out! Ask the high school to help you figure that out. Maybe its just first come, first served, given the interest in taking distance math classes.
He is a senior and he will be applying for fall 2019 as a freshman. Gt has a distance calc program which is linear algebra and multivariable calc program for high schoolers in GA after BC calc which is broadcast into hs. So he is now taking multivariable at local cc this semester. However it shows just how competitive GT is.
He has a five on the chem ap already so he will get credit. Only SAt subject test for him that is worth taking for credit is the US history exam as he had a bad day the morning of that ap otherwise they are all fives. Because my eldest is graduating from GT this year I know the ins and outs of GT quite well.
Public universities in GA are tuition free for georgia residents with the Zell, hence why you see so many Georgia students staying in state making it more competitive year over year as well.