<p>No, the gov't takes care of their dying partners for them, they control hollywood, and they think theyre all smarter than us "breeders". Essentially, every gay person I know thinks they know something that I do not, IE there is some big gay conspiracy going on in hollywood. </p>
<p>What straight people want for themselves in not what gay people want for themselves. Take a lesson from the past and look at how we treated natives.</p>
<p>What the heck do Native Americans have to do with gay people?</p>
<p>^ I know. Someone needs to made so points that make sense.</p>
<p>^^ Some people don't want an uncaring government to take care of there loves of their lives. The point is that straight people can be at their partners death beds, but the gays can't. That is not equal. You try to tell some old man to not lay by his wife of 50 years as she is dying. That is sick and heartless.</p>
<p>Next, the gays are drawn to theatre like athletic kids are drawn to sports. I don't know what it is, but that is what happens. SO, the gays do theatre and go to Hollywood, naturally creating a higher abundance of gay control. The same with athletes. They do sports and some, those lucky enough, make it on national teams. So, they get power over the NFL, NBA, ect because there are more of them there. There are always exceptions, so I am not completely stereotying. Or is this logic to hard?</p>
<p>Also, that last if some idiotic stereotype to make you feel better about you own stupidity. Ask yourself, is it the gays that think they are better than everyone? Or is that they are the scapegoat for all the people, which is plentiful, who are smarter than you? And they never, I never, no gay person I have ever know, has ever referred to straight people as "breeders." You, most likely heard that through the media from some stereotypical, brainless gays while designing clothes or something. And even then they are not serious.</p>
<p>Last, the sentence in the last paragraph is the only importent thing you have stated. While in the end, they want the same thing, right now, in our society, they do want different things. Straight people want money, a home, a family, ect. While the gays want one more thing, those stingy gays, want the same rights as everyone else. Sorry that it is too much.</p>
<p>lol "breeders"</p>
<p>that term was used on "the big gay sketch show" on logo... the gay channel</p>
<p>it was definitely a joke, as its an SNL for gay people.</p>
<p>anyway, i live on long island. everyone i know is 100% accepting and dont even care..... its such a new experience on here to see people are actually against homosexuality. ignorant it may be but i took for granted that other places aren't as accepting as the NYC suburbs are.</p>
<p>Gay people can't get pregnant!? I didn't know this... do their ovaries shrivel up or something??</p>
<p>;)</p>
<p>^^
Hahahaha.</p>
<p>Totally off topic but i've always wanted to say it and it's way unorganized since its just random thoughts but and I may be overrexagerating and it's late and all but...</p>
<p>I find it hard to accept/understand the transexuals, yet I am gay. I don't know why, I always bring up the argument "well it's only fair to accept them when i'm trying to be accepted myself." </p>
<p>But egh, I guess it's just not my scene. I also am turned off by the Pride Parade scene and all of the things associated with them (stereotypically but truthfully). Who really wants to prance around in feather boas and skimpy outfits in bright colors? It's so strange... i'd much rather be playing soccer or going out for dinner and a movie or even the beach! Yet sadly that is what the gay community has become, I mean all some poor person from a conservative environment has to do is just catch a glimpse of some pride parade to completely want to ban such nonsense. In some ways it's even taking the community/movement back a few steps. </p>
<p>I mean, all I want to do is get my degree, have a career, get married, and maybe adopt a kid or too. Eghhh talking out of the untouched part of my mind ends now...</p>
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<p>Actually, I totally agree with you. Part of the reason why many conservatives don't accept gays is because they tend to think that all gays are like that^. (Which obviously they're not.) If gays stopped trying to make themselves different purposely, I think middle America would have no problem accepting them.</p>
<p>I think we should start a new thread on overpopulation.</p>
<p>Saying that gay people shouldn't be allowed to get married because two people of the same gender can't have kids is like saying that couples in which one person is infertile shouldn't be allowed to marry.</p>
<p>Ok, i am convinced that none of you have any gay friends. The gays I know dont want to be married because "marriage is for breeder scum". They think all of this gay pride LGBT parade stuff is disgusting and sets back their progress by 40 years. They also look down on the majority of America as stupid idiots.</p>
<p>^Ummm...the gay people here appear to want the ability to get married. Your gay friends are not the only gay people.</p>
<p>but theyre the hollywood gays, aka the kings of gays. I can understand the marriage thing, but my main point was that gays do not want the things that we want, theyre just different.</p>
<p>^ No, we're not. We want the same things you want. The ability to love somebody without stigma. The ability to marry the person we love. The ability to raise a family. The ability to go out into public and not have people stare.</p>
<p>And I'm not a "Hollywood gay".</p>
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<p>Hello there, TomHirschfeld. My name is Amanda, although you may call me by my chosen pseudonym for this site if you desire. You may also call me Sal, as that is what my friends like to call me. I'm a lesbian, and according to Google Maps, my current residence is 2,901 miles away from Hollywood. It's a pleasure to meet you.</p>
<p>Okay, now that we know each other, allow me to introduce some diversity into the viewpoint of all the gay people you know, a wonderful group which I am thrilled to be a part of. Call me a romantic, but I've always wanted to have a real wedding, and it seems silly to go to all the trouble of planning one unless it means something, on both a legal and religious level. It'd be nice to be able to get married, just like any straight couple. (And just for the record, I've never uttered the phrase "breeder scum" in my life. That's a pretty awful term to stick to 92-95% of the population.)</p>
<p>See, I see gay pride as being proud of (a) who you are and (b) being strong enough to overcome the discrimination GLBT people face. What's disgusting about that? I'm not super-flamboyant and my wardrobe is tragically deprived of rainbow, but I think there are far worse ways to spend a Saturday afternoon than having some fun at a parade. We just have to take care to represent ourselves well in other settings. The GLBT community doesn't have to give up gay pride and parades in order to promote equality and let people know we're just like them.</p>
<p>(An aside: I'm curious as to why you picked these opinions of your gay friends to share with us, as they come from diametrically opposed schools of thought: those in the GLBT population who don't want to be a part of heteronormative society- they would tend to reject marriage as a "breeder" institution and enjoy parades thoroughly- and those who want to blend in with heteronormative society and be seen as equals to straight couples- they tend to favor marriage equality and thumb their nose at flamboyant gay pride demonstrations. Both viewpoints have merits, but I've never met anyone who held both simultaneously. It would surprise me if every GLBT person you know agreed with both of your statements.)</p>
<p>And no, I don't look down on the majority of America as stupid idiots.</p>
<p>There is no "we" and "they." Gay people come in all shapes and sizes, just like straights; some want to get married, some don't. Believe it or not, there are plenty of straight people who don't want to get married either, and who would prefer not to raise the family.</p>
<p>Also, the most predominant gay in Hollywood, Ellen DeGenerous, just proposed to her partner Portia DeRossi. DeRossi is planning on changing her name. </p>
<p>You, Tom Hirschfeld, are the exact reason that many of your gay "friends" think that Americans are idiots. Mostly, they aren't, but you certainly are one of those select (uneducated and bigoted) few.</p>
<p>^ Well said. Besides, Tom..., I don't think you have ANY gay friends...or straight friends...of asexual friends...or any friends for that matter. Oh, now I get it, you resort to CC to fill the emptiness in your heart where tolerance, respect, and friends should be. My bad, if you just would have told me.</p>
<p>My question for those who oppose parades and other public showings of the LGBT community: Do you also oppose cultural shows and parades?</p>
<p>I just don't understand the double-standard. If straight people went out and held a "Straight Pride Parade," many would be (rightfully) outraged. But why aren't people also outraged at "Gay Pride Parades?" It's been said before; many believe that sexuality is not a choice. Why flamboyantly be proud of something that wasn't even your choice?</p>