Georgetown B.A.+ Columbia Engineering B.S. (CCP 3+2 Years Dual Degree Program)

Georgetown offers this: Opportunity to receive both a B.A. degree from Georgetown and a B.S. degree from Columbia Engineering over the course of five years.

Does anyone have a good insight on this program?

The website says any Georgetown student can apply but is it very hard to get accepted? Will this 5 years worth it and land on a good job with Columbia B.S degree?

Please help! Thank you in advance.

Search for 3/2 programs in the engineering forum. There are lots of them. For a multitude of reasons, they are largely looked down upon. If you want to be an engineer, start in an engineering program.

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Combined Plan Applicants | Columbia Undergraduate Admissions indicates that all admission to Columbia as the “2” school is competitive holistic admission (but with minimum of 3.30 GPA and B grade in every prerequisite to be eligible). For those who began as frosh at affiliated “3” schools prior to 2019, there used to be guaranteed admission criteria, but that is no longer offered for current beginning frosh.

Also note that the page says that “We do not guarantee that we can meet 100% of demonstrated financial need for all admitted students” and that “Candidates are not guaranteed the same financial aid package they received at their affiliate schools.”

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I wonder how many start with the intent but then say why start somewhere new where I don’t know someone after 3 years ?

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a lot.

We did a lot of homework on 3+2 programs and decided that a 4 +1 program was a better bet. Most of the students that we know who thought they would do 3+2 didn’t.

Is this mean, it’s kind of easy to accomplish this program if a student tries hard for it? Is there any hidden requirement for this program? Don’t want to choose Georgetown only to not getting Columbia BS degree. (NOT saying that Georgetown BA degree is not worth it.)

It’s not “kind of easy” to do. There are no “hidden requirements” - the requirements are right up front (see post 3).

Are you asking why our collegekid didn’t choose a 3+2 program in the end?

There were several reasons. She didn’t want to have to leave just at senior year if things were going well (fwiw, she moved school a lot due to frequent job transfers, so the idea of being in one school all the way through appealed to her); the transfer process had just become more onerous / less certain (see @ucbalumnus post); the +2 universities that she looked at were at schools she wasn’t particularly interested in on their own (Columbia & Dartmouth); and somebody she met who did the 3+2 with Dartmouth gave her feedback that did not appeal to her.

Once she got to her UG school she met students who were doing the 3+2. Some liked it, most did not.

If you are just trying to backdoor a Columbia degree b/c you have somehow decided that is better than a GT degree a 3+2 degree is a long, hard way to do it.

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People don’t want to leave their 3 school when they are kings of the hill. The financial aid is not guaranteed at the 2. In this case, admission is not guaranteed either. All in all, it’s a bad combo.

My son did a 4+1 too. In the same time, he walked with a BS/MS.

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No, but:

  • Admission to transfer to Columbia for the “2” part of the program is competitive and holistic. Meeting the basic requirements listed on the web site does not guarantee admission.
  • There is one more year of costs, and Columbia does not promise as much financial aid for 3+2 program students as it does for frosh and other transfers.
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