Georgetown or UPenn?

<p>My friend is having trouble choosing between Georgetown and UPenn. She doesn't have an account at CC, so I'm posting her question for her.</p>

<p>"I have to choose between two schools: Georgetown and U Penn. The financial situation at either school is irrelevant, and thus the choice is even more difficult to make. I am yet unsure of what I’d like to do in the future, my interests are very eclectic. At U Penn, I am a member of the College of Arts and Sciences. At Georgetown, I am a member of the Walsh School of Foreign Service. I liked the environment at both schools, yet I am leaning towards Georgetown as a result of the fact that its location is more suited to my interests in immigration and politics.</p>

<p>I am worried, however, that as Georgetown is not an Ivy League and not a top school in any of the rankings, my chances of gaining admission to either Harvard or Yale Law will be slimmer. Does the Ivy League reputation count? Is it that important? Furthermore, I have heard several people disseminate an opinion that Georgetown is an average school, and that attending U Penn will enhance my credibility in all the ways that Georgetown cannot. Is this true? "</p>

<p>a) You're friend got into SFS at Georgetown. That's fantastic. It's very competitive to get into and that's a big accomplishment.</p>

<p>b) Does your friend definitely want to go into law?</p>

<p>c) You're friend will get into those law schools at either school... Its more about what she does in college, not where she does it. If the difference were much bigger then it would be harder to figure out, but Georgetown is an amazing school, not to mention it's in DC. Plenty of opportunity for internships. Fun fact that has no bearing on this decision: Georgetown was invited to be a member of the Ivy League but turned it down.</p>

<p>d) I still say Penn, but only because I'm going there next year and I liked the school more as a school.</p>

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Fun fact that has no bearing on this decision: Georgetown was invited to be a member of the Ivy League but turned it down.

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<p>Bet they regret that.</p>

<p>If I had godly powers I'd kick Cornell out and put Gtown in...after all, it has the proper pre-19C pedigree ;)</p>

<p>That being said I'd still pick SAS over SFS, again only because I prefer Penn as a much broader and richer undergraduate institution.</p>

<p>Yeah, I would agree with every part of YankeeBoy's comment. I've also heard the SFS at Georgetown is top notch, so I don't think your friend can make a
"wrong" decision, just one that's more right.</p>

<p>Also, IMO 90% of your friend's chance of getting into Harvard or Yale law school is directly related to her accomplishments in undergrad and the other 10% comes from what school she did it at.</p>

<p>If she is not sure what she wants to do as a career, then I would recommend UPenn just because most everything at the CAS is very very good, so if she switches majors it will still be at a similar level of awesomeness. But if shes absolutely set on doing immigration and politics, then I can't recommend not going to Gtown.</p>

<p>Hope this helped.</p>

<p>JohnnyK
I'm going to UPenn next year, so I have no reason to defend Cornell, but besides being founded after 1800 what reason do you have to kick out Cornell? Because you'd be removing the best Ivy engineering school, the only Ivy Hotel School, the best Architecture school in the nation (the only Ivy to offer a Bachelor of Architecture degree), as well as three contract colleges that offer a unique mix of studies.</p>

<p>BTW, I've also heard Johns Hopkins was invited to join the Ivy League and they also turned it down. idk, something about protecting academic integrity?</p>

<p>You'll understand when you get here ;)</p>

<p>How often do Ivies play D3 Hopkins in football? Inviting them makes little sense.</p>

<p>Now Georgetown is Big East, so maybe we play them from time to time in football, but probably not often enough to invite them. They are also Catholic which is a big nono for the Ivy League.</p>

<p>some old woman i know told me that dartmouth beat colgate out barely for an invite.</p>

<p>can someone verify which schools were 'invited' and which weren't. I thought some newspaper dude just picked 8 schools in the 1930's and called them ivy league. </p>

<p>I just don't think I could let my children play with kids whos parents weren't from the top 40. Hell, make it top 30.</p>

<p>CC GODS i INVOKE THEE</p>

<p>A Columbia adcom said that Colgate and West Point were invited at my visit. He has no reason to lie about something like that.</p>

<p>A fellow named Bill Clinton managed to get into Yale Law after Georgetown SFS.</p>

<p>venkat, he has every reason to lie to someone as ugly as you</p>

<p>He was the Maryland regional admissions counselor. He has no reason to lie to a group of like 10 thousand Asian prospectives from around the world begging to get into the Ivy League.</p>

<p>dlimhs: "the best Architecture school in the nation (the only Ivy to offer a Bachelor of Architecture degree)"</p>

<p>Interesting blanket statement. Also not true. Cornell is the only ivy that offers a B Arch degree because all the other schools shifted to a 4+2 structure. It is a very good school, but calling it the best is a mistake.</p>

<p>As for Ivy League history: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League#History_of_the_athletic_league%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League#History_of_the_athletic_league&lt;/a> - apparently Army and Navy where part of the Ivy League.</p>

<p>Down with the Four Olds: Cornell, male condoms, Penn GSE, and Burger King!</p>

<p>the Penn GSE is in fact getting demolished (along with stiteler, solomon, and te social work building). Thank god, these buildings look like van pelt shat on 37th st.</p>

<p>But the school ain't going away.</p>

<p>They're replacing it with the Penn School of Outsource Studies aka the graduate school of New Jersey</p>

<p>GeorgePenn</p>