<p>Just thought everyone would like to know, in the new USNEWS rankings (at least the so-called "leaked" rankings that people have posted) Georgetown is ranked 22, tied with Carnegie Mellon- an increase of one spot from last year. :D</p>
<p>where are they posted?</p>
<p>USNEWS rankings are ridiculous. Georgetown would be much higher if their endowment was larger, which it isn't for a variety of reasons I don't care to address.</p>
<p>i don't believe "size of endowment" has any bearing in the usnews methodology.</p>
<p>It does. It is under the category of avg. alumni give rate/rank.</p>
<p>ummm....</p>
<p>Alumni giving rate (5 percent). The average percentage of alumni who gave to their school during 2002-03 and 2003-04.</p>
<p>mind showing me?</p>
<p>I do beleive that generally there is found to be a direct correlation between the number of alumi whom donate to the school and the total amount of money that the school receives.</p>
<p>Thus, it follows that a school with a higher percentage of giving alumni would have a larger endowment. </p>
<p>Abstract, I know. But it does make sense.</p>
<p>Here are the real rankings:</p>
<p>There is a thread in Search and Selection that has the correct information as well.</p>
<p>bdibble,</p>
<p>hate to break it to you, but you're wrong lol</p>
<p>explain why some public schools, which receive much less alumni donations than private schools do, have huge endowments. Also, donation money does not go towards the endowment, it is usually given and spent towards something.</p>
<p>Public schools have big endowments because they receive public money, from taxes. Look at Michigan.</p>
<p>Actually it's 23rd</p>
<p>If US News added a another 5% or 10% category for alumni of influence and/or fellowship success, Georgetown would easily rocket into the top 10. Georgetown may have more living Heads of State, Members of Congress, Ambassadors, NATO Commanders, Governors etc. than the entire USNEWS top 25 Liberal Arts colleges combined. Two of the fifteen most powerful women in the world are alumni and General Casey runs our army in Iraq. We are one of only seven undergrad institutions with a member of the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>But instead things like "faculty resources" and the opinion poll of Presidents, Provosts etc. is what moves the ratings.</p>
<p>But be optimistic, our basketball team is in breakout mode and if they manage a couple of final four runs in the next few years, the resulting media focus on Georgetown's incredible alumni achievements could make us the hottest school in the country. If Georgetown stays focused the sky is the limit and the money will follow the power and the achievement.</p>
<p>vienna man - I like the way you think. By the way, which two women are you writing about?</p>
<p>Gloria Arroyo, President of the Philippines and Pat Russo. Chairwoman of Lucent/Alcatel</p>
<p>yes, lets look at michigan and georgetown.</p>
<p>tuition at michigan - averaging out the 2:1 instate to out of state ratio is $8,000 a semester...so about $16,000 a student a year.</p>
<p>at georgetown, tuition is more than double at $33,552 per student.</p>
<p>Some deal that is. Michigan gets about 20% of its budget from the state, but proportionally receives 50% less tuition.</p>
<p>also, vienna man, georgetown isn't the only school with famous people. don't you think other schools in the top 25 have put on influencial people? There's more than 1 school that has put out presidents, provosts, ambassadors, etc. not to mention business leaders - which georgetown is lacking.</p>
<p>Michigan ia fine school too. Not denigrating anyone. Was accepted to its MBA program so I know all about Ann Arbor.</p>
<p>(By the Way, Bernard White, Georgetown '68 did a marveleous job as its Provost, Acting President and Dean of Its Business School. His work at Michigan is reflected in your obvious pride.)</p>
<p>I think you misread top 25 LACs for top 25 universities, too.</p>
<p>Pssh I don't care what USNews or anyone says says. If Georgetown was even lower on this rankings list, I'd still be beyond proud of the fact that my school is awesome.</p>