<p>right now im like dead split between the two and i know they are very different but i like different things bout both....any1 wanna help convince me on georgetown?</p>
<p>you aren't in the middle of nowhere =)</p>
<p>Really depends on what you value --college or its outcome and depends on what you want to study. Econ is one thing and political science/international relations is a whole different story.</p>
<p>Nope. But I'll do it anyway. Second best can be good for the ego, keeps you humble. Why attend a college with an overflowing endowment, great facilities, beautiful location & satisfied alumni--it makes life too easy, too rosy. After all what are your chances of being mugged in Hanover, New Hampshire? Zero! That's right--zero! Where's the fun in that? Where's the challenge? Besides you'd look funny going to class in a three piece suit at Dartmouth College. And it's only a "college"! "University" sounds much better.</p>
<p>they are different colleges with different strengths...if u just base it off the rankings, we all know Dartmouth>G-town, but it is not always the case...I personally like Dartmouth better</p>
<p>(i got deferred early action from G-town and withdrew my application cuz it was the only rejection i got; but i got into UNC, UChicago, UGA Honors, UPitt Honors!)</p>
<p>Dart is a solid university (and one of my favorites as well), but I'm not quite sure what they excel at (though its enough to say that they are strong in every aspect), but if you want to study international relations, foreign affairs, and government etc, I would take a serious look at Georgetown. Otherwise, you can't really go wrong with either. If you prefer the "Ivy League" status, then Dart.</p>
<p>Well, I gotta admit, Georgetown is almost unparalleled in the strength of their Poli Sci. and International Relations departments. Dmouth? Sort of an overall excellence, even though many from the Dart board advise that the math department isn't quite so stellar (mostly due to the d-plan system, etc.). </p>
<p>If you want to go to a top-notch school for poli sci and IR, Gtown is basically the best. You also have Washington DC right at your foot, countless opportunities for congressional jobs, internships, etc. etc. etc. Just because it's not an Ivy doesn't mean Gtown is not widely respected -- Bill Clinton went there for undergrad, remember? </p>
<p>If you want a quieter setting (although jobs might be a little lacking), Dartmouth might be a better place for you.</p>
<p>The The</a> New York Times Cross-Admit Table has it Dartmouth 69% Georgetown 31%. That seems about right. </p>
<p>I've spent time at both campuses. Dartmouth is a bona fide, central casting Ivy League University. Georgetown is a nice university in a great location. </p>
<p>If you go to Georgetown, when your fellow Hoyas find out you were accepted to Dartmouth, they'll pause and then inquire, if so, why you came to Georgetown.</p>
<p>Don't be so smug Mr. Muller. This a a scene which could easily take place. Several present and past Heads of State and international organization heads are gathered at the Davos Conference in Switzerland-the King of Jordan, the President of the Phillipines, the President of the European Commission, the President of ASEAN, the former President of the United States, the Crown Prince of Spain, the First Lady of the Ukraine, the President of Bosnia and the US Secreatryof the Treasury. They were were having lunch. The group introduced themselves, paused and then the group inquired of the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury-Why did you choose to go to Dartmouth when you seem bright enough to be able to go to our alma mater, Georgetown?</p>
<p>My sister was admitted into both schools (as well as a few other Ivys) but narrowed it down to Dartmouth and Gtown. When she went to visit Dartmouth for a fortnight, she found that ALL they did was drink. She left after the first night and never looked back. She graduated from Gtown (SFS) and is now in the middle of her PH.D. program. Although Dartmouth is an "IVY," that should not be what drives your decision. Go and stay on both campuses and see which one is more of a fit for your personality. Dartmouth is in the middle of nowhere land while Gtown has so much to offer in terms of culture, intern opportunities, etc.</p>
<p>I have heard the same about drinking from Dartmouth students I met during their summer internship. I asked them what the most popular sports were at Dartmouth, and they laughed and said in unison drinking since their sports teams weren't that good and the winters were long. They seemed happy there, though.</p>
<p>That being said, Dartmouth does have a unique schedule (as opposed to the semester system), which may appeal to you. This allows students more flexibility to do a term abroad, or working or volunteering. Might want to look into that, I know kids for whom that alone influenced their decision to go to Dartmouth</p>
<p>why does everyone say Georgetown is unparalleled in poli sci and IR? I understand the location is a great boost to the education while there, but is there any legitimate comparison between GTown and other good polisci/IR schools?</p>
<p>I think the whole situation Muller described MIGHT happen in the college, but for SFS kids, I've heard from several friends that you frequently meet people who turned down Princeton or Stanford to attend there. I'll admit, if you're studying science, math, literature etc, Dartmouth probably has the edge, but for Polisci/Int'l Relations/Government, Georgetown is, quite literally, one of THE best on the planet, up there and, according to some, better than the likes of Harvard or Princeton.</p>
<p>Also, Gtown's Business program is fairly prestigious.</p>
<p>Also, I've heard from a friend that went to Dartmouth that she HATES the scheduling. It's a trimester system, so all of your old friends will be visiting home at a different time than you. </p>
<p>I don't attend, so I'm probably not seeing the whole picture, but that's just what I've heard.</p>
<p>Uhm. Wow. It's interesting to see the two different threads in both the Dartmouth and Gtown forums. I have to say though, the Dartmouth forum provides actual real reasons for attending instead of saying something like, "Durrr... It's in the middle of nowhere."</p>
<p>The D-plan can be limiting, but I'd say that it's not the end of the world if you don't get to see your friends in college. I mean comeon. Everyone has internships and research that they have to attend to. We understand that college is supposed to be about fun, but there's a certain future that everyone has to look forward to as well. That said, the D-plan is also really good in that it allows you to schedule your academic experience. If you have an incredible internship that can only be done in the winter, then you can adjust your D-plan accordingly. Or if you want to take 7 straight terms and then take 1-2 off to study for MCATs for med school, that'd be completely doable as well. The D-plan also prepares you for a very fast-paced lifestyle, seeing as how the time you have at school needs to be used wisely or else you'll get screwed. </p>
<p>And Toast eater, I don't understand what your post is talking about. It seems to be complete gibberish to me. Paulson went to Dartmouth and obtained a comprehensive, and without a doubt great undergrad education, which allowed him to go to Harvard Business School. </p>
<p>I don't know where this talk comes from in terms of the IR program at Gtown. Don't get me wrong, I've heard great things about it, but Dartmouth's government program would probably do just as good of a job. And on top of that, I'm assuming that there's still a need for a good grad school for stuff like IR right? Can you just come straight out of SFS and assume that that's your terminal education? Grad schools across the country recognize the strength of Dartmouth's undergrad education--it's the main reason for students' high admission in law, med, business schools, despite there not being a vetting process for something like med, where Hopkins says that "97% of its pre-meds get into med-school"...well yea, they get in because the college doesn't let students apply without being approved. At Dartmouth anyone who's a pre-med gets in is in because they wanted to apply for it, not because the college allowed them to. And Dartmouth's admit rate is still 96-97. </p>
<p>As for the drinking, well you got me on this one, but I can assure you that I would rather go to school like Dartmouth than someplace like Columbia, especially for undergrad. It's not like the drinking scene is all there is at Dartmouth. It's a kind of college community that I doubt you'll find anywhere else.</p>
<p>Georgetown SFS, with its faculty of former Heads of State, Cabinet members, a CIA Director, fromer national Security advisors, UN ambassadors and just plain old run of the mill distinguished academic scholars, and with its various research centers, is on another planet from Dartmouth's government department. The resources are vast and it has the greatest number of international affairs courses in the world. No serious observer can challenge the preeminent position of SFS. The Carnegie Endowment, through Foreign Policy Magazine, rated its graduate programs first in the world.</p>
<p>MYSOJ1230-My comment related to Mulller's previous post. I guess I need to spell out explicitly what it means since you feel it is gibberish. I was making the point that Muller's prevous comment was silly when, Dartmouth's most distinguished current alumnus would sit in a subordinate position to a about a half dozen Georgetown alumni on the world stage. It was to show the silliness of Muller's implied superiority comment. I hope you now get it. A negative comment tearing down another without basis, as Muller did in his post, needed to be put in proper perspective.</p>
<p>Are we seriously comparing famous alumni toast? Really? Honestly? </p>
<p>And do you HONESTLY think that the "heads of most prestigious nations and institutions" would actually sit there and ask paulson why he went to a lil old school like Dartmouth instead of Georgetown? </p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>If he were to be asked I am sure he would quote Daniel Webster's immortal line "Dartmouth is a small college but there are those of us who love it".</p>
<p>Do you make errors in all your posts?</p>
<p>how about GTown has a business undergrad program and Dartmouth doesn't? That made all the difference for me. Also, consider that Professor French at Dartmouth (manager at World Fund I believe) is full of BS where he is riding on prestige of position to get money. Efficient market theory? Warren buffet HELLO! What do you mean an index will beat out value investing?</p>