Georgetown vs. NYU

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<p>All right guys, for years you have helped me with college decisions. I now look to you for help. I am currently an NYU student who has been accepted for georgetown fall 2010 transfer. I am wondering: Georgetown vs. NYU?</p>

<p>A little about me: I am looking for a more traditional college experience.
Looking for a school that churns out a lot of professionals in business, law, and medicine.
Strong crew team is also important to me. How would you say the reputations compare?
I am not sure what I want to do yet, but would like to keep as many doors open as possible.</p>

<p>Anything else you guys have to say about the two would be greatly appreciated. </p>

<p>Love you guys.</p>

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<p>Pretty much equal I would say. NYU’s professional schools are better if that counts for anything.</p>

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<p>NYU is run like a business. I have a feeling georgetown will be more personal. also, I have a feeling many may disagree with what HonkyDonk just said.</p>

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<p>not really leaning toward one or another, just need some objective comparisons.</p>

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<p>just some personal insight:</p>

<p>Obviously. G’town is my dream school for undergraduate education but I would be very happy with NYU Stern because it is a fantastic program that would provide the same (or even more opportunities than) as a G’town degree. The philosophy, traditions and history of Georgetown are simply unmatched. It’s a different story that I would prefer a NYU JD/MBA over a Georgetown JD/MBA.</p>

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<p>I roomed with someone who went to Georgetown, and if you want a traditional college experience, RUN from New York and never look back, lol. </p>

<p>And that’s coming from ME, a diehard NYUer! Haha.</p>

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<p>I’m running!</p>

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<p>lol, good decision!!! have fun at the hilltop! :)</p>

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<p>NYU and Georgetown are not equal at all as far as undergraduate experience is concerned. Yes, NYU’s graduate programs are significantly superior, but you’re not going to a graduate program, so that’s irrelevant.</p>

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<p>A georgetown undergraduate education is definitely (much?) stronger than a NYU undergraduate degree, am I right flowerhead? You’re right–NYU is definitely not focused on undergraduates. What’s your take on this?</p>

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<p>In terms of prestige and employability, the Georgetown degree will be stronger. In terms of actual academic experience, I’m unsure because I haven’t attended NYU for UG, so I wouldn’t know. But Georgetown is probably better because of the significantly smaller class size and correspondingly smaller classes. As an overall experience, being a graduate student here at NYU and comparing that to my lifestyle at Georgetown, I can say that Georgetown is far better (if you’re looking for a traditional, private, elite college setting).</p>

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<p>Doesn’t an applicant get some sort of advantage in admission to graduate programs if they’ve been an undergraduate at the same university? contacts, specific references etc??</p>

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<p>@ hookedongtown</p>

<p>That’s what I’d always assumed, but I recently heard it’s the opposite. Apparently, because so many undergrads at a school with strong graduate programs apply, it’s actually generally more competitive for them.
That said, I could be totally off on that–I really haven’t spent much time looking onto grad school.</p>

<p>@ clout</p>

<p>My cousin transferred from NYU to Georgetown, and said it was one of the best decisions of her life. Georgetown made the process incredibly easy, and she quickly felt like part of the community–a feeling she never had at NYU. She also felt that her academic experience was better.</p>

<p>I just got into G-town myself, and unless I get good news from Brown next week, I’m probably headed there next year.</p>

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<p>That’s the sad thing; NYU UG is NOT a feeder school into its grad programs. It just isn’t.</p>

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<p>Nope, not at all.</p>

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<p>wow i didn’t know that. this is really making me reconsider the value of a stern degree :(</p>

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<p><a href=“WSJ in Higher Education | Trusted News & Real-World Insights”>WSJ in Higher Education | Trusted News & Real-World Insights;

<p>NYU is not even on that list. Damn. But then again, I completely understand how a bachelors is enough for most people.</p>

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<p>@hooked</p>

<p>No, it isn’t. For academia, in certain fields, it can be considered “academic incest” to stay at the same institution for a Bachelor’s/Masters. The idea is that the student should be exposed to different viewpoints and perspectives, and staying at the same school for grad might prevent that from happening. This isn’t for ALL concentrations, but for many of them.</p>

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<p>@missamericanpie
This used to be true, but no longer is, at least at top schools.</p>

<p>Regarding professional program admissions:
I don’t know about MBAs or MDs, but for JDs, the admissions process (even at tippity top law schools, except for Yale and Stanford) is about 90% numbers-based. In other words, if you have the GPA/LSAT, you’ll probably get in. School comes in for borderline applicants, but that has much less to do with coming from the same school and more to do with whether the applicant is coming from a “good school.” Some schools, of course, might even give a slight bump for applicants coming from the same school, but I surmise that this only really applies to Stanford, Yale, and Harvard.</p>

<p>The reason that WSJ chart is just silly is that it makes it seem like school makes all the difference. The reality is, if you have the numbers, Georgetown would put you in all the same places Harvard would. NYU might be at a slight disadvantage compared to Georgetown and Harvard with respect to Yale and Stanford, but it just doesn’t matter otherwise. I know plenty of NYU graduates who are at HLS or are heading there this fall. Clearly, the school isn’t holding them back.</p>

<p>The WSJ chart also only really discusses percentages, but I just have trouble with percentages when considering a large student body. Put simply, larger schools tend to have a significant diversity of focus and ambition. For instance, you can effectively count Tisch out for law school admissions (I’m sure they’d make fine applicants, and I know one or two who got into law school from it, but I can’t imagine that a significant number of them want to go to law school); I’d also imagine that a significant majority at Stern would want to get an MBA or rough it out in finance first. There’s significant self-selection involved that the WSJ chart just doesn’t account for.</p>

<p>Same with Georgetown. You can effectively rule out the School of Nursing and Health Studies–most of them will not want to go to law school. I’m sure if Georgetown had eliminated that school and increase enrollment at the College, MSB, and SFS, they’d do significantly better on that WSJ chart. Again, though, this school serves a specific purpose and Georgetown values it significantly, so it ain’t going nowhere.</p>

<p>So I hesitate to draw conclusions about professional school placement regarding good schools like NYU, Georgetown, Harvard, etc. I think they’re all fine.</p>

<p>With respect to Ph.D and Masters programs, school has even less to do with it; the quality of your department is much more important. I think, for philosophy, an NYU student would have a much easier time getting into a top Ph.D program than a Georgetown student. It’s just the way the cookie crumbles. But the notion that prestige or school caliber determines your future so significantly is nonsense. Yes, it will dictate your post-graduate employment opportunities. But in terms of graduate and professional schooling, you have much more to worry about if you’re deciding between Georgetown and a California State University, than between Georgetown and NYU.</p>

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<p>Flowerhead–extremely informative words there. You have led me to believe that is doesnt matter WHAT school you go to, but rather HOW WELL you do at any particular institution. Thanks again, I now realize that it comes down to location and where I feel better. Thanks for writing that–your words are extremely appreciated.</p>

<p>Josh</p>