<p>I know, they're completely different schools. One's in the city, one in a tiny town. one has 4 undergraduate schools and one is liberal arts</p>
<p>but someone sell me georgetown over williams....over vice versa</p>
<p>I need some guidance. I never thought I'd be making this decision</p>
<p>Presume you want to get on with your career and life and do the most advanced academic work possible. Williams is an AP-IB disrespecting institution meaning that even with honors AP or IB grades you do not receive credit. At Georgetown your honors level APs and IBS become credit which allows you to avail yourself of opportunities like the five year masters programs in many disciplines. At Georgetown, you could be moving on to professional (even Law or Medical school with the relationships with Georgetown Law and Med) life while you would be stuck producing “tution” credits for the Williams bursar.</p>
<p>I also find philosophically, that an education that does not promote the thirst for the highest level of knowledge, to be almost anti-intellectual and in opposition to what a university should be.</p>
<p>Win-win.
Georgetown is a great national university. Williams is probably the very best LAC in the country. But wow, are they different in atmosphere.
If you don’t mind being in the middle of nowhere, I’d go with Williams (and probably go for junior year at Oxford, which many WIlliams students do). If you crave the larger university and the buzz of a city, I’d go for GU.
But like I said, you cannot lose. It’s an enviable “predicament.”
Congratulations and good luck.</p>
<p>@stupefy…as i mentioned in a previous post, your stats are similar to my sons. He is thrilled to be attending Georgetown in the fall. We all attended the GAAP weekend last weekend (basically it was accepted candidates weekend for the EA kids) and that sealed the deal. The students were amazing and the whole program really helped you to get a good feel for the school. There are 2 more weekends in April and I would highly recommend attending. He was hoping to have to choose between H or Y and Gtown, but, that didn’t happen. He was accepted to multiple schools but feels like he “fits” at Gtown and it has been at the top of his list from early on. The Georgetown area is awesome with M Street and that whole area as well as DC and all that has to offer. I guess it just depends on where you feel like you “fit” when you visit. I wish you the best of luck. The admit rates to all of the top schools were brutal this year and took us by surprise. Happily, our son is thrilled with Georgetown and can’t wait for the fall to get here!!!</p>
<p>luvthecape, what do you think about gtown vs. cornell? thats the situation im in…</p>
<p>My S was waitlisted at Cornell CALS for the AEM program. He realizes how well rated this program is which is why he applied. He is not a fan of the snow and there were a few other issues with Cornell so he decided to opt for Georgetown. We were all incredibly impressed by the presentations the business students gave last weekend, the internship program, etc. and all the seniors have jobs lined up already. Plus, the weather is great and you can’t beat the Georgetown/DC area over Ithaca. What school did you get into at each?</p>
<p>Well, unless you really can’t stand being in the middle of nowhere, you need to realize that people actually say “Harvard vs. Williams” and they are stumped. Unless there is a significant scholarship attached, very few ever say “Harvard vs. Georgetown.” Just a little perspective…fwiw.</p>
<p>^yeah that’s true</p>
<p>That statement is not true for SFS. For people who are committed to policy careers in diplomacy, intelligence, and national security, Georgetown has no peer.</p>
<p>luvthecape, i got into mcdonough at gtown and arts and sciences at cornell. what were the other issues with cornell? im intrigued. i’ve visited gtown before and i loved it and im going to the next GAAP too. and im also really excited by the new business building. how was that?</p>
<p>The new MSB building is AMAZING but the students were what made the program SO impressive. At Cornell, my son did not like the fact that he had to take sciences in CALS where the AEM major is and a few other things…but, it is a wonderful school.</p>
<p>Stupefy, Williams is an amazing school. The thing is, when it comes down to it, the most important thing is choosing the school where you feel like you will thrive, where you fit in, where you can relate to the other students, where the social life fits what you are looking for. My S did not apply to the Amherst, Williams type LAC’s because he felt he “fit” better at the schools like Gtown, H,Y, Duke, Vanderbilt, Cornell, etc. What other people say doesn’t matter, you’re the one that has to live there. My S met and talked to a girl at Gtown who had transfered there from Harvard!!! So, it’s all a matter of where you fit. We talked with mostly MSB kids and SFS kids at Gtown as my S has a lot of friends in SFS. They all are incredible, “ivy-league” caliber kids…if you visit in April, you will see. I would also visit Williams this month as I’m sure the kids there are incredible as well. I wish you the best of luck in your decision making process. I know it’s hard.</p>
<p>Regarding the acceptance of AP/IB credits, I don’t think Georgetown accepts many. From what I can understand, they would take Eng Lang OR Lit, math (4 or 5 on Calc), and maybe a social science. They will not take US History and Latin is used for placement. At Georgetown which has a big core that still leaves 10 or 11 courses to take. </p>
<p>Williams has very loose distribution requirements. Three classes in three areas and one or two of those could be your major(s) and minor. So I see Williams as far less restrictive than Georgetown. None of the highly selective schools give you tons of credit for APs and other previous work.</p>
<p>I suspect the campus feel and student camaraderie would be pretty different, too.</p>
<p>Williams is as restrictive as you can get-no credit, nada.</p>
<p>hey all, i’m luvthecape’s son, happily headed to georgetown as a member of MSB’s class of 2014. what questions do you have for me (especially stupefy and madhukar)?</p>
<p>@stupefy, i really don’t think you can go wrong with either georgetown or williams. obviously, as everyone’s said, they’re both incredible schools. it really does just come down to what you’re looking for as far as a “fit.” if you’re concerned about educational opportunities, most professors i spoke to or discussed with students at georgetown wrote their own textbooks and are acclaimed experts in their fields of study. job opportunities/internships? several students i spoke to mentioned that their internships were the same as those provided to HYP students, and the amount of georgetown grads going to incredible jobs is staggering. </p>
<p>personal factors for me in choosing georgetown: solid business school (with notable ties to wall street), size (about 7000 undergrads; pretty much exactly what i wanted), incredible student body (diverse, smart, fun, spirited, friendly, passionate…), location (distinct campus –> georgetown, a well-off, exciting district of DC –> washington dc), rave reviews about absolutely everything from every student i talked to (not exaggerating at all).</p>
<p>if there’s anything else you’d like to know, please feel free. i’ll start checking the site more often.</p>
<p>PS: Hi, Mom.</p>
<p>As far as AP credits go, Georgetown gives credit for almost every AP class where you score a 4 or 5 on the test, other than US History. What that means at Gtown is that you pass out of introductory classes and move directly to the more advanced courses (which is what most schools at this level seem to do). My friend’s son goes to Pitt and started as a sophmore because of all the AP credit…that won’t happen here and I doubt it will at Williams. It does, however, leave room for you to double major, take courses that you are interested in, etc.</p>
<p>The full breakdown of advanced credit award policies can be found here: [Undergraduate</a> Admissions](<a href=“http://www12.georgetown.edu/undergrad/bulletin/admissions.html#advanced]Undergraduate”>http://www12.georgetown.edu/undergrad/bulletin/admissions.html#advanced)</p>
<p>JCM33, why georgetown over cornell? that is my situtation. are gtown’s internship opportunities THAT much better? i know cornell is ranked higher, but that obviously isnt everything</p>
<p>i just didn’t love cornell’s atmosphere, to tell you the truth. i thought the stress level felt way too high in students i talked to, though admittedly that could have been a side-effect of recent suicides on campus (another point of concern). i also like georgetown’s proximity to dc. in terms of internships, i wouldn’t say that one school has “better” internships than another, from what i gathered. according to students i talked to, the internships were pretty much equal; there doesn’t seem to be any special “ivy league business internship” or anything like that.</p>
<p>honestly, georgetown just fits me better, as far as my personality is concerned. i’d highly recommend visiting both campuses to see what you think, if that’s possible.</p>
<p>yeap thats exactly what i thhought. so far i’ve figured that cornell and georgetown are both pretty much equal academically and intership/job opportunity wise as well. ill be visiting both in the next two weeks. hopefully it becomes easier to pick :D</p>