<p>I have already been accepted to G tech. and Clayton State. I am interested in engineering. But I hear that at GT, you take core/elective classes the first two years and get into your major the 3rd year. Is it best to do these two years at Clayton State, with the benefit of smaller classes and closer to home, or is it best to just do the first two at Georgia Tech. Im pretty good at my school work (AP Calc BC, Chem, Bio, etc.) Which one will work out better? I am a motivated student and I don't mind going to either. Would it be best to do the first two years at Clayton, and then transfer to GT, or just attend GT as a freshman. I just want to know your opinions. Thanks
The reason why I was thinking about this program was because alot of students are at Georgia Tech right now are failing. And they are working to regain HOPE scholarship. Some of them now have to take summer classes to regain credit. I don't want to be in this situation, so wouldn't be better to do first two years at a smaller college, then transfer with a better GPA. Most students find their first two years at GT the hardest, despite having not gotten deeper in their major yet.
Some computer engineering professors don't care about teaching the students according to some Tech students I talked to. They're only paid to research not teach. This is probably the reason. Money is a huge issue right now, and I really don't want to lose HOPE the first year. Its tough decision.</p>
<p>Well you’d have the advantage of smaller classes and you’d skip most of the weed out courses that GT offers. However, once you’ve transferred to GT you’ll be a little behind in a few places.</p>
<p>1) Even though Clayton State offers the same courses, tech will teach them at a lower level and many of those principles will carry over into your major classes. You’ll probably have to play catchup in some areas.</p>
<p>2) The work load at GT is tremendous and Clayton State will not prepare you for the amount of work you’ll do as a Cmpe.</p>
<p>I myself transferred into GT before my Junior year as a Cmpe and skipped some of the weedout courses (Calc & Physics). The biggest transition for me was having to up my studying habits. This came in two phases. In the first phase I realized I had to study a lot more because I had tons more work than I was used to and the work was much more challenging. The second phase came when I realized I had to study even more because the people in my classes were much smart than I was used to. Engineering is graded on a curve at GT so if you don’t know your stuff better than x% of the people in the class you can make bad grades even though you probably know the material quite well. Your biggest enemy is someone who is smarter than you that studies more than you. These are the kids that force you to study even more. I spent 3 yrs at GT before graduating and towards the end I was burnt out. It didn’t help that by the time I realized what cmpe was all about it was too late to change majors because I wasn’t willing to set myself back 2 yrs. Not sure how I would have handled GT had I spent my first 2 years dealing with all the weed out BS. I do want to say that often I hear about kids not liking the first 2 yrs because the kids that come out of high school generally didn’t have to study that much in high school. Most get by on pure smarts. Once they get to GT they feel like they can carry over the same habits that got them into one of the worlds best engineering schools and this fails in a short time.</p>
<p>What’s your family’s income? If your family make less than 33,000 and ga instate resident, Ga Tech will give your grant if you lose Hope scholarship. It is called Ga Tech Promise. If you are qualified, you have no reason to pick Clayton State anymore.</p>
<p>Wow, I didn’t know GT did this. However, even if you lose Hope, and still finding it hard to even maintain a 3.1 gpa, won’t it look bad on your transcript when the graduate school receives the bad grades at GT?</p>
<p>Yes. If you want to attend graduate school, you need to keep your GPA up.</p>
<p>If you apply Ga Tech for graduate school, a relative low GPA (3.1) is still better than 4.0 at Clayton state, IMO. I know student got 3.2 GPA as undergraduate CS get into Ph.D program at Ga Tech CS. It is called Home court advantage.</p>
<p>However, if you apply other colleges, the answer is depend on your GRE score and other projects you did. The advantage is probably less. </p>
<p>Also, Ga Tech is a lot easier to get good grade than it used to be. Average GPA at Tech is nowaday around 3.0 range. It used to around 2.7 in the middle 90s.</p>
<p>Finally, Ga Tech GPA only counts the courses you took at GaTech. Even if you got 4.0 at Clayton state the first two years, your GPA is still 0.0 until you completed your first courses at Ga Tech.</p>
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<p>I wouldn’t call a 3.1 GPA a “relatively low” GPA, as it’s above average. I would call a 2.5 GPA low. At that level, you’re not really competitive for most graduate schools. But I would still take a Tech 2.5 GPA over a Ga Southern 3.0, or even a 3.5 GPA.</p>
<p>Also, the “home court advantage” doesn’t work in many departments, including some at Tech. Some faculty purposefully do not bring back their undergrads for their grad program. The prefer diversity of undergraduate studies. Similarly, many colleges do not like to hire their own PhD graduates.</p>
<p>Maybe I give false impression. Let me clarify further.</p>
<p>What GP Burdell said is true for Ph.D program since there is limit number of slots for those spots (and want more unique experience from its students) . However, in general, if you just want to get Master degree only, it is much easier get into Ga Tech from Ga Tech undergraduate. Also, if professors wants their ph.D students from other institutions, they want students from Ga Tech’s peer institutions (CalTech, Carnegie Mellon).</p>
<p>Will the number of transfer students be cut from 700 to 300 in 2012? If so, then it would be worth going to tech right? I thought it was better to get core classes over with at clayton(english I or II, or some elective) and even take calc 2 or bio or chem II at clayton b/c they still offer it. But I heard that tech is limiting transfers by 20 %. <a href=“http://www.usg.edu/fiscal_affairs/documents/summary_of_reductions.pdf[/url]”>http://www.usg.edu/fiscal_affairs/documents/summary_of_reductions.pdf</a>
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<p>The short answer is “nobody knows”.</p>
<p>Freshman freshman class won’t be cut, but nobody knows what’s going to happen to transfer students. For this year, it won’t be know until late April/early May when state of Georgia finalize its budget and Ga Tech figures out how much it can get from the State. </p>
<p>Even if there won’t be cut in transfer student this year, it is high likely that it will cut the number of transfer students in coming years and/or increase minimum GPA. </p>
<p>Here is my analysis only, please take as it is and I am not associated with admission office 
Currently, in state transfer only need 2.7 overall GPA and 2.7 math/science GPA to be competitive in transfer (compared with 3.0 for overall and math/science for OOS and 3.5 for overall and math/science for international). I think that’s way too low since UGA already changed its minimum GPA to 2.8 a year ago. Also, with acceptance rate of freshman dropped to 48% (compared to 70% three years ago, 60% a year ago) and freshman retention of 93%, it is no reason to let that many transfers in. </p>
<p>If you really want to pursue Clayton State/Ga Tech path, I would aim for 3.5 for overall and 3.5 math/science GPA to be safe.</p>
<p>I posted over here: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/georgia-institute-technology/889199-how-far-will-georgia-tech-go-terms-cutting-transfer-students-state.html#post1064404427[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/georgia-institute-technology/889199-how-far-will-georgia-tech-go-terms-cutting-transfer-students-state.html#post1064404427</a></p>
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<p>Is that competitive for transfer? Their stats show an average GPA of 3.4-3.5 for transfer admissions.</p>
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<p>They need 2.7 overall and 2.7 math/science to meet the requirements, not to be competitive. Same goes for Biomedical Engineering and Mechanical Engineering which requires a minimum of 3.0. </p>
<p>Back when I transfered as a CmpE, it was considered a competitive degree requiring a 3.0 math/overall at a minimum. At the time 3.3+ was considered competitive. I believe these numbers change from semester to semester based on applications. You can call admission to find out what is competitive for whatever degree you’re pursing. </p>
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<p>You can look here and see 5 year averages:</p>
<p><a href=“http://hyperion.gatech.edu/reports/irp/Transfer-in_GPA_PDF.pdf[/url]”>http://hyperion.gatech.edu/reports/irp/Transfer-in_GPA_PDF.pdf</a></p>
<p>Granted, that doesn’t mean that you’re in above the average or out below. Some of it depends on the school.</p>