<p>yea im applying for dat right now</p>
<p>"alright, I apologize for coming off as a bit aggressive. But if there's a ranking which is irrefutably flawed - in this case, grossly inaccurate - why even reference it? It's very misleading and should not be used to support your claim."</p>
<p>I am in complete agreement that the Princeton Review's ranking seems inaccurate and certainly not based on prestige. I merely mentioned it in passing with a 20-word sentence in the middle of a paragraph in the middle of a 564-word post (or 3.5% of my single post) because I recall hearing that Duke was ranked second. It's not like it was central theme in my post. To be perfectly honest, I had never actually looked at the complete list until you and another person called me a liar. That's all. You can disregard those 20 words in my original post and read the other 544 words that talk about attractive aspects of Pratt. Both GT and Duke are great - can't go wrong with either really. I think rankings are generally stupid and overemphasized anyways. Cheers!</p>
<p>^ Haha...did you actually count the words in your post?! And calculated a percentage to boot...LOL</p>
<p>You truly are an engineer...:D</p>
<p>^^ Yes, yes, I try. :) I didn't actually count the words by hand - I used a MATLAB algorithm that counts words instantly by measuring the spaces between text after taking a screen shot using WinSnap.</p>
<p>Nah, I'm just kidding...I used Word Count in MS Word...Took me like 5 seconds, which I thought wasn't too much time to prove a point. Take it easy!</p>
<p>I just love some of the posts on this string:</p>
<p>the OP: "which school would give me success in the future?" - answer: neither one, how about earning your own success?</p>
<p>danas: "My bias is to go where the smart people are". Yeah, and GT students are of course idiots. How smug.</p>
<p>bluedog, lvilleslacker: if your list indeed to relates to engineering programs, I completely concur that it is very strange- and I went to UVa engineering.</p>
<p>Of course GT kids aren't idiots. Just a completely different level of intellectual fire power at a school like Duke.
GT has a different mission. It is a state school with a 70% admissions rate.
I'm sure you could get a fine education at either school.</p>
<p>Duke >> Georgia Tech</p>
<p>Just a reality check on Duke vs. Georgia Tech.
The College Board lists the 25%-75% range on SAT Math as 640-720 at Georgia Tech, and 690-780 at Duke overall. The SAT range for engineering students at Duke may well be, say, 730-800.
The kid who is an engineering student at Duke who couldn't hit 700 on the Math could well be the son of a major donor or a Guard on the basketball team. The engineering student at Georgia Tech who couldn't hit 700 on the Math is the average student.</p>
<p>College board stats must be old. The SAT range for accepted students for the class of 2011 for Duke engineering was 750-800. Trinity's (the arts & sciences school) range was 690-790. ACT range for Duke engineering was 32-35. Somehow, the Duke engineers even had a higher range on the VERBAL section of the SAT than Trinity (700-770 vs. 680-770). So, overall SAT range for Duke engineering was 1450-1570, meaning 25% of engineers got 1580+ (note: Duke doesn't really care about the writing score and counts it the equivalent of an SATII score).</p>
<p>According to GT's own admission's site, the SAT range for matriculating students was 650-730 for math and 1250-1400 overall for the class of 2011 (still, quite good).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.admiss.gatech.edu/studentstats/%5B/url%5D">http://www.admiss.gatech.edu/studentstats/</a></p>
<p>bluedog...
A common mistake, you are quoting the figures for accepted students at Duke, not enrolled.
The College Board's figures ARE for the class of 2010, though.</p>
<p>you dont add up low 25% of math and verbal to get low 25% of composite math-verbal score. Each person gets differently on each section and admission officer told me Duke's 50% composite range was 1350-1550.</p>
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<p>Reality check...SAT scores aren't everything.</p>
<p>Let's say I want to major in chemical engineering, aerospace engineering, industrial engineering, materials science, or polymer/fiber engineering, I can't do that at Duke, because Duke doesn't offer those programs.</p>
<p>how about Computer engineering? Which school?</p>
<p>^ According to USNWR for undergraduate computer engineering:</p>
<p>Computer Engineering:
1 Massachusetts Inst. of Technology<br>
2 Carnegie Mellon University (PA)
2 Stanford University (CA)
4 University of California–Berkeley *
5 U. of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign *
6 Georgia Institute of Technology <em>
7 University of Michigan–Ann Arbor *
8 Cornell University (NY)
8 University of Texas–Austin *
10 California Institute of Technology<br>
11 Purdue Univ.–West Lafayette (IN)</em>
12 University of Washington *
13 Princeton University (NJ)
14 Univ. of Wisconsin–Madison *
15 Univ. of California–Los Angeles *
16 Northwestern University (IL)
16 Rice University (TX)
18 Univ. of California–San Diego *
18 Univ. of Southern California<br>
20 Univ. of Maryland–College Park *</p>
<p>so even though Duke's better school in overall, if I am going to major in computer engineering I should go to GT because the rank for computer engineering is very high?</p>
<p>^ Depends on what you want in a school. </p>
<p>I would have no hesitation choosing Georgia Tech, because it has the prestige in the programs you want, at a cheaper cost.</p>
<p>No, you should go to the one where you prefer to live and work for 4 years, factoring in your finances (i.e., lower costs should equal some amount of compromise), since either one you go to is going to be plenty good enough.</p>
<p>what are the advantages of going to each school?</p>
<p>In terms of faculty quality, Duke is actually quite weak in engineering. It has one of the lowest numbers of National Academy of Engineering members of the top 50 engineering schools. Even other smaller engineering programs still have a relatively higher NAE concentration.</p>
<p>Some relative comparisons: (just a spot check, not all major programs listed)</p>
<p>MIT 108
Stanford 87
Berkeley 73
UTexas 49
Caltech 29
UIllinois 28
Georgia Tech 25
Cornell 23
Princeton 21
UMichigan 20
Carnegie Mellon 19
Columbia 18
Purdue 16
Harvard 14
Penn State 10
Rennselaer 10
Rice 10
Johns Hopkins 10</p>
<p>Duke 3</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nae.edu%5B/url%5D">www.nae.edu</a></p>