<p>Hey guys, I don't know how much help you can give me, but I'm just a little anxious about getting all of my application stuff in on time. I'm a junior and a candidate for 2013, and am in the last week of junior year. I'm pretty much set with everything but the teachers' recommendation letters. I've already asked my teachers to do them and they said they'd get them into the guidance office (which I guess is open during the summer, are most hs guidance offices open in summer?) Anyway, for the application it says to give the contact info for the guidance counselor who will be sending my letters and transcript info and etc., do you think I should give her guidance office contact info or home info? Normally I'd think the office info, but my regular counselor, who said she was going to handle it for me, just had a baby and hasn't been at school for the last month, so I don't know if I should list my current substitute counselor's office info? The congressmen also ask for rec letters so I'm assuming I'll have to give my nomination applications to the guidance office and hopefully they'll handle that for me too? Sorry if it seems like I'm just ranting about my problems, but like I said I'm kind of anxious about the situation. I'm also applying for NROTC, and on their application it says to give the contact info for the teachers who are completing my evaluations. Since the teachers won't be at school in the summer, I guess I have to give their home info? Do you guys think the teacher's would mind? If any parents on here are teachers, have you had any students who did this? Do most applicants get their teachers to do this during the summer, or do you guys think I should have gotten this taken care of before school ended? I definitely don't want to wait until next school year in September to get my stuff in. Sorry again guys, but I'm nervous about getting my stuff in on time.</p>
<p>"On time" is a loose phrase when it comes to rolling admissions. Although earlier is always better, you're not going to be hurt too much if you don't get your stuff in until october or november. I didn't submit my personal statement until Christmas (I am NOT suggesting you do this, just offering an example) and I received my LOA in early Jan. So, I'm simply saying don't freak out if you don't get everything in over the summer.</p>
<p>For the guidance counselor (or substitute), don't send anything to their home. They have to send the transcript based on the information sent to their emails so I'm sure they would prefer that to be at school. For the teachers, you can consider calling them and asking what they would prefer.</p>
<p>I didn't get my whole application finished until the third week of February when I did my CFA. As Jaybee said, don't send anything to people's homes. I would imagine that if you give a personal e-mail address, some questions about legitimacy would be asked. </p>
<p>As long as you get your application materials to your teachers and guidance counselor within the first two months of school you will already be ahead of the game and it will be appreciated that you did everything before the busy season. At this point, there is really no rush. Just get everything done that you can do yourself.</p>
<p>Thanks guys. Also I have a question about a specific part of the application. In the section where they ask for your current studies, do they want to know my classes for junior year as well as the ones I'm planning to take senior year, or do they just want senior year, or what? I looked at the application instructions but its still kind of unclear to me. They say: "Course: Enter the courses you are taking or plan on taking in the coming YEAR." It sounds like they just want the ones from senior year, but then why would they ask for your grades if you haven't taken the classes yet?</p>
<p>The application is open until March, so they ask for grades if you've already completed a semester. Just put the courses you're planning on taking for senior year.</p>
<p>I believe there's an option for "Unknown"... right?</p>
<p>Rambo, you ask excellent questions. You're obviously trying to get this right, I would just suggest you relax a little bit. I'll share the schedule my son used and everything went fine. Spring was prliminary app for NASS. In June he started the other parts of the application. He used the courses he had just completed as a junior which included grades and told them what he planned to take as a senior. He contacted his math and english teacher by phone and asked them what email address they prefered the academy use.(Their recommendation will be submitted electronically) One said work, one said home. If you've been issued a candidate number then when you log in, you'll see everything listed that they have requested and when it is received. He played football and wanted to get everything in before the season and school started. He didn't quite make it. He was done by the end of August, though. Your MOCs will be very specific in their application requirements. Just do it exactly as they say and you'll be fine. All official communication with your school should go through your guidance office. Given the unique circumstances with your counselor, just be sure and follow up. Your Principal or someone else could send something if you're up against a deadline. The Academy will communicate regularly with the school, so go ahead and get the ball rolling. In a nutshell, everything was done by the end of August, noms received in November, appoinment came in January. Don't wait until Dec/Jan to do things, but you are by no means late. Best of luck to you</p>
<p>I had all of my stuff in to the Academy and the nomination applications mailed by mid August last year. I got my Academically Qualified letter in October and my nominations on 31 January 2008. Just my opinion but I believe the earlier you get before the review board, get 3Q'ed, and your DODMERB everything will be in total order when your NOM's hit and they can pull the trigger quickly. Once my NOM's went in I had an appointment in my hands in two weeks. Does'nt mean my way is the only way or the right way, but it worked out very well for me. Around 2 weeks and counting, heading to the great adventure...........</p>
<p>I did the NROTC and USNA applications pretty much simultaneously.
Math and English teachers were sent in June.
Transcript was sent in June.
CFA was done at NASS and later in late September.
The personal statement I did in late August, as did I with the remainder of my personal data.</p>
<p>I received an appointment in December. </p>
<p>Don't worry as much about getting everything in quickly, just worry about doing them correctly and completly.</p>
<p>If I recall, the board doesn't start evaluating candidates until the end of August. Even if you have all the necessary parts of the application completed before August, it will just sit around.</p>
<p>Nothing sits around at the Naval Academy and I don't mean that sarcastically, but some of the bunk I see posted here is real bad advice. I have been through the process and succeeded. Early and often is my advice.</p>
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Yes, I believe it would. The first admissions board didn't meet last year until the beginning of September.</p>
<p>Always lean towards submitting professional contact information. Whether you use a personal contact to get them to check the professional contact is another story. =)</p>
<p>It is a good idea to get as much of the application as you can out of the way over the summer while you (theoretically) have more time to mull over it. While Senior Year for some people is more laid back after the mayhem of junior year, there is something to said about doing college applications. It's nuts and time consuming. And Academy prospectives tend to be go-getters, which means you'll be taking just as many and harder courses than junior year.</p>
<p>You're well ahead of the train with getting your recommendations and if you can get things through your guidance office over the summer, then you can avoid the rush first semester when everyone is last-minute shoving things to make deadline. Your counselors will appreciate the forethought.</p>
<p>But as someone said, don't freak if you're not done in August. Don't have a panic attack if you have to wait for the academic year to submit a thing or two. I'm sure it's nice to be like GNBA and be done in August and get an LOA and 3Qed first thing in the fall, then get a nomination in January and an appointment two weeks later, but for some of us the path to an appointment isn't quite as smooth. Doesn't make the appointment worth less in the end, so just make sure you get there the best you can.</p>
<p>Rock on -- and best of luck.</p>
<p>I think my point has been missed and maybe it is in the definition of "sitting around". When the applications come in there is a bunch of processing that takes place well before the board first meets. So yes, if you get one in prior to the first board, it may well be "sitting around" with regard to the board seeing it, but it is not "sitting around" from the perspective that it has to be processed, ranked and put in proper form for the board to review. My opinion is early and accurate. My way is clearly not the only way, but since it worked for me, I like it.</p>
<p>It is my understanding that a significant portion of the application process is done online and is automated...that would cut down on the processing. Additionally, if the forms are completed by the end of June or even mid-July, it only takes 2-3 weeks to process the applications, so then it would be sitting around.</p>
<p>I am not sure when you went through the process....when I did...it was all on paper and it took 2-3 weeks to process forms. Even an application in by mid-July would be sitting in limbo for a few weeks. </p>
<p>It can't hurt being early and accurate...just realize that if your application comes in before mid-July, it isn't like you can even be evaluated. The point is, don't rush just to have it in. Work what you can get done and what you can't...don't sweat.</p>
<p>I think Jadler hit it on the head. You want quality in your application.</p>
<p>And GNBA, I envy your luck.</p>
<p>Rambo my opinion and and advise to you is to slow down and really examin your application documents. In reading your posts I get the impression you are in a rush to be first in the belief that will help you get in. Unless things have changed in two years since my daughter went through the process, the review board does not meet until around mid-September to start the process for the Class of 2013. A sloppy application will doom you even if it is the first in the door.</p>
<p>I have hired people and have looked at stacks of resumes. The first pass is never a full read. It's a quick 30 second scan to do an initial sort, the really good ones go in pile A, The crap ones go in pile B, and the majority of OK to average ones go in pile C. I then go back to pile A and focus on each applicant. What I suggest to you is look at your resume and personal statement. Are they simple and to the point and a quick read that showcases your strengths and reasons for wanting to go. Could they be formatted and written better? You have time over the summer. Give copies to your parents, teachers, BGO and other people you respect. Ask them to critique the documents. Look at it this way, you have 30 seconds each to read your resume and personal statement. After 30 seconds do you want to read more or are you confused as to what the documents say?</p>
<p>Lastly on the reccomendation letters. If possible get copies from the teachers or other sources you have asked for reccomendations. I can't remember the exact process my duaghter went through but she did ask for more reccomendations than were required and cherry picked the best ones. </p>
<p>You have time. Send in your best work that tells the story about you.</p>
<p>Despite some people have said, get your application in ASAP. I had everything in and was only waiting on a letter of reccommendation for two months. Finally got it in early in November. Through a grad from my area who is good friends with the dean of admissions, I apparently got my app done two or three weeks late. I was from a very competitive congressional district that had 5 people with LOAs show up to the nom interview with about 35 people who had navy as their first choice. Needless to say I was only asked about my backup plan (found at firstie year that I was reccommended by admissions for an LOA in late November)... I to use some other avenues to get my nom (not until late march) and got in at the end of may... So yeah, my advice is to get in as soon as possible. The Admissions Board begins meeting in late August so I would suggest August 1st as a good deadline.</p>
<p>btw, you have a good deal of the summer to worry about quality, theres no reason no to be completely done by 1 August</p>
<p>What stallion is saying is true too! Get your application done in a reasonable time. If you have it in between August and early October, then you are doing fine. If you wait until November, you are cutting it close, even though applications can be submitted through Jan. (I think).</p>
<p>Also, what MIDNDAD says is reflected somewhat on the admissions board. Each board member (not sure if it is still the board members or admission counselors now-a-days) is suppose to brief 8-12 candidates every Thursday. They go in front of the board and give a 30-45 sec summary of the candidate. Each board member does have stats, etc. in front of them to reference, but you pretty much get 30-45 secs of fame. Then they decide to admit, defer, or decline.</p>