<p>Exactely^; && teh reason is that they read tooo many applications to get extras</p>
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<p>Ha I just thought of that. It's possibly because I haven't heard of schools checking your background as you are going to the school.</p>
<p>If I was an adcom and got 20 pages of junk I'd just toss it out the window (of course I'm not, but its human psychology)</p>
<p>if they care enough or if its a hook, they'll look for evidence on their own if its "hook" enough</p>
<p>"^ I know a lot of people who went to Harvard who cheated on EVERYTHING. They were smart but lazy. They still managed to succeed though so it never came back around to them. One person like this that I know is buying a 2 million dollar house after working for 4 years. (I'd say that's pretty sweet)"</p>
<p>Harvard admin officials know this better than we do. They know the half their applicants are full of ****. Thats how they get in in the first place. They lie to get in. Thats why they don't have a good reputation. Sure, their smart, but not honest. I know UCLA does a serious comprehensive review, so cheating would be rather hard.</p>
<p>Maybe these schools just don't care that much about ECs? </p>
<p>(they don't, I know it for a fact...)</p>
<p>how so? 10char</p>
<p>Harvard likes ppl who are going to become successful. If ppl are VERY good at lying and covering their tracks, their going to be successful (cough politicians cough)</p>
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<p>^ hahaha</p>
<p>Well...we can all learn a lesson from Marilee Jones.</p>
<p>I have a question though. I serve as a representative to the district council, but I don't talk to my GC very often. I go to a public school and interaction with GC's in my school is at the minimum. I asked an admission officer at Stanford, and she said that they consider that when looking at your GC recommendation. However, if they were to call about my EC's, I don't think my GC would know anything at all. How should I prevent this scenario? I'm already choosing my outside recommendation from a member of the board so that I have some kind of substantial evidence. Plus, my short answer response is on it.</p>
<p>Most reputable guidance counselors will say, "I don't know. Let me check with the advisor & I'll get back to you." They're not going to say, "No, he doesn't do that" when they don't know you, or have a roster of students (like the football team) in front of them.</p>
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Well...we can all learn a lesson from Marilee Jones."</p>
<p>Is she that lady that BSed all of her credentials.. and got into like 5 ivy league schools? I remember hearing about that on the news.. didn't she also do identity theft?</p>
<p>No, she's the MIT Director of Admissions who lied like a rug on her resume, and was fired. It happened about six months ago. Look for the threads about her.</p>
<p>^ Additional Info:</p>
<p>She started out working for MIT, and slowly worked her way upwards. She did an amazing job as the Director of Admissions (and I think most people will agree with me on this). A few months ago, she resigned and admitted to fraud. She said that she did it early in her career and, as she moved up at MIT, she was just too ashamed to admit it.</p>
<p>UCLA does a comprehensive review? This is the frst I have heard of this. It's a huge, public school. That's pretty impressive (that they are able to do this).</p>
<p>Primary Source: My dad told me he was questioned via letters about a certain Extra curricular he did in high school. For some reason the school had no record of him doing a sport he claimed. REgardless, he solved the issue, and graduated there... god knows when. lol.</p>
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<p>All the UCs do random checks on ~10% of the applicant pool. The applicants have to verify one of the three - Extra Curriculars, Events described in the Essay or Volunteer Work</p>
<p>Optimization</p>
<p>UCLA must have a lot of admissions officers because they receive some of the largest amount of applications each year. I'm still wondering how they have the time to do that amount of background checks and paper reviews</p>
<p>wow all they have to do is verify ONE of the three ????? wow that's ridiculous.</p>
<p>Ya...seriously what are the odds that 1 in 10 applying to the UC system lied in ALL 3 of the above mentioned topics AND manages to get caught?</p>
<p>Actually a question that wasn't answered in this thread. If an individual did lie, managed to slip by admissions, gets in, and if somehow the school discovers that the applicant lied on one of their extra curriculars or sports or etc, would that individual get expelled, or is it too late?</p>
<p>^ they would be kicked out at most universities.</p>
<p>someone who went to my high school a few years ago recently got kicked out of an Ivy because someone ratted him out.</p>
<p>^ so this idiot was spreading the news that he cheated to others? He deserves it than.</p>