<p>Hello, I'm a rising senior in a private school in Atlanta, GA. I have good stats, like 2320 SAT, 3.85 w/ ap, etc and all that, including work experience and research with professors. I'm applying to HPYS, and my guidance counselor says they are reaches, so I just toured UCs and other stuff near Emory/Northwesterns level of selectivity. I was wondering if I could safely, assuming my essays are unique and good but not excellent, and my recs are good, maybe great, count UCLA as a safety. I have a good idea
of my chances with other schools, but I don't know how hard UCLA
is for OOS. </p>
<p>I consider Berkeley a reach-match, would that be about right? Or is it much harder for OOS than IS.</p>
<p>the strangest people from my high school got into berkeley (by strange i dont mean nerdy...i mean the most lacklustrous minds/resumes) and not ucla, and vice versa</p>
<p>safest: have another safety... (esp if that gpa is weighted?...hopefully not)</p>
<p>and when it comes to OOS, i would say...beware: public universities luff their in-state residents</p>
<p>UCLA would probably be a match/reach, and Berkeley a reach. Your stats are great, but OOS admission at those schools is said to be similar to mid-tier Ivy's. If your 3.85 GPA is weighted, that could pull you down, because the avg. UW GPA is about a 3.9+, and the avg. weighted is around a 4.3.</p>
<p>UCLA is never a safety school, especially for a an OOS-er like yourself. Admission is very unpredictable. Also, Berkeley is not significantly more selective, if at all, than UCLA anymore.</p>
<p>I think that the major you choose will matter a lot more. For example, I applied for EECS/CSE for both UCLA and Berkeley, but was only admitted to UCLA because Berkeley's Engineering is a lot more selective.</p>
<p>ucla a safety wow... i considered UCR a safety lol i know quite a lot of people that got into berkeley but couldn't get into UCLA, during my year everyone I knew that got into both came to UCLA (including me) and everyone that didn't get into UCLA went to berkeley...</p>
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ucla a safety wow... i considered UCR a safety lol i know quite a lot of people that got into berkeley but couldn't get into UCLA, during my year everyone I knew that got into both came to UCLA (including me) and everyone that didn't get into UCLA went to berkeley...
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<p>a lot of OOS students have a different perception of UCLA than most in-state students do. most OOS students do not aim to go to UCLA (as their #1/2) so many simply consider it a safety.</p>