getting in?

<p>yeahh timed test is my problem which i say makes me a bad test taker.
i can take college exams and do fine, im in college classes in my town and making As.
I'm in AP Statistics and doing okay with a B.
I am capable of taking test with longer times.</p>

<p>I think if i had all day to do SAT and ACT then id excel.
just like on TAKS i get all day and make almost perfect on each one.
(ive taken practice w/o time and done very well)</p>

<p>SAT/ACT arent fair. esp in texas with TAKS, we learn TAKS from 3rd grade to 11th grade. We learn how to take our time and do things perfectly.</p>

<p>We get 60 Math questions and all day to do them on TAKS.
Then On ACT we get 60 math questions and 60 mins. not fair.
On my MATH TAKS i missed ONE. ACT math got a 25.
Same with Reading, for TAKS we get like 3 passages and all day.
SAT/ACT 4 passages and very limited time.
I am a slow reader, but I do enjoy outside reading and I love reading/researching/learning about my interest (medical issues).</p>

<p>I think my GPA would be higher if my freshman year, I didnt make mostly Bs and make a 70 in Spansish 2. I think mid-sophmore year, I learned what I had to do and put my head to it and now I make all As and a B in statistics which in my school a B in an AP class goes in as an A. (JR/SR grades are way better than fresh/soph)</p>

<p>I think colleges will look at that, the maturing, and learning how to study. but idk.</p>

<p>SAT/ACT are just not fair... :/</p>

<p><strong>the thing about the 30000 a year thing, i heard it on the news, but I dont fit into that category, my dad is a petroleum engineer and mom is an industrial one (both went to tamu)</strong></p>

<p>Xcellerator:</p>

<p>i understand that, (i guess i cant do TIMED test) my bestfriend lives out east and has a 3.0 and top 25% and a 1700 sat score.
and not being mean, or rude, but I am smarter then her by far. people are surpised that her scores are higher than mine and her percent is higher with a lower GPA.
i just cant take timed/pressured test</p>

<p>TAKS isn't comparable to SAT/ACT. TAKS is a test to make sure you have the "basics" that everyone needs...where as SAT/ACT is beyond basics. Not to mention the timed aspect you've already stated...b/c in real life as well as on tests in college (and HS for that matter), you are asked to perform with deadlines.</p>

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I hear there is a new policy put in place for the kid whos parents make less than $30,000 a year. You get into A&M if your gpa is above a 2.5? I might be wrong but my parents told me lol. Sometimes I wonder why I am so well off...

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<p>That's wrong. The new policy is if your parents make combined less than 60k, then your college tuition is payed for if you get accepted.</p>

<p>i understand SAT/ACT is harder
but the fact is we are trained to take a test untimed
and we never talk about SAT or ACT ever in school.</p>

<p>and yeah, a lot of test are timed when you get older, but i dont think the sat/act shows my intellegence.
for example, i can read and comprehend well but everytime i have taken the test i havent once had time to finish more than 2 passages, so my reading score is the lowest. </p>

<p>idkk, i just wished i didnt want to go to tamu sooo bad.
but its the "family" school
it feels like homeee
and its where i wanna be, it fits my person.
but i dont have the scores/rankk.</p>

<p>I didn't think the SAT or ACT questions were that much harder than TAKS. Like lexii09, I tend to stress out on timed tests and end up second guessing my answers. In college you have more than ample time for a test. For example, there are tests on fridays that start at 7pm and most people don't finish until early the next morning. In the real world you don't get an hour to complete a project, you get weeks. As for my statement about the $30,000 a year thing, yeah I did look into that and your right I was worng.</p>

<p>"The new policy is if your parents make combined less than 60k, then your college tuition is payed for if you get accepted."</p>

<p>Wow really? Does the new policy apply to transfer students?
I know my dad makes very close to 60K a year. My mom doesn't live in the US.</p>

<p>I'm Cuban American and will have a 3.6 almost 3.7 GPA by the time I apply to A&M for Summer 09 admission.
I'm not sure if being Cuban is a plus :P</p>

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I didn't think the SAT or ACT questions were that much harder than TAKS. Like lexii09, I tend to stress out on timed tests and end up second guessing my answers. In college you have more than ample time for a test. For example, there are tests on fridays that start at 7pm and most people don't finish until early the next morning. In the real world you don't get an hour to complete a project, you get weeks. As for my statement about the $30,000 a year thing, yeah I did look into that and your right I was worng.

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<p>You must be absolutely joking... right? </p>

<p>1)The TAKS on many levels is a joke of a test... it's something I don't think anyone studies for and can still do great on. The TAKS is no where near comparable to the SAT/ACT.</p>

<p>2)What!? Are you in college right now?? More than ample time for tests? Wow.. No such tests start on friday at 7pm and conclude in the morning lol... tests are timed and so are projects. Often times you find yourself rushing to try and finish a test and/or a project. Yes, sometimes you'll have more than enough time to finish, but it sounds to me like you are in HS or even Junior High guessing about things. Same goes for the real world... time constraints.</p>

<p>I stand on my opinion about TAKS. Your right, I didn't have to prepare at all for TAKS and made a perfect score on all but english where I missed one. As for SAT, there was no question that I didn't know how to answer, I just took too long and ended up having to rush through the rest. Ok maybe I should clarify myself, I am talking about the math portion of SAT/ACT. Ill agree with you that the reading is def. tougher than TAKS. I had to omit the whole second portion of it because I didn't know what it was asking. Maybe I should have went to Test Masters ;) But yeah, for math it was a breeze.</p>

<p>I don't know about you but my fellow aggie friends who are in engineering all agreed that there are those types of tests that last all night. I am not arguing that there shouldnt be timed tests but, cmon less than a minute a questions is nuts. You get more than that in college. But then again most kids are specifically trained to take those kinds of tests by Test Masters. There have been kids who make awesome grades on the SAT and completely suck at college exams.</p>

<p>Sorry for not specifying that my arguements about timed tests were regarding engineering. I guess im narrow minded. To answer your question, yes I am in "college" but I goto a CC. Not because Im a dumb sack of **** but because I decided to bite the bullet and wait a year so I could get into A&M.</p>

<p>Would you know if it is possible to take the SAT or ACT again once you graduate high school? I would love to take it again just to see if my attitude towards it has changed in the past 2 1/2 years.</p>

<p>I am going to bed. I think this issue just ends up being someones opinion. Its what causes the earth to go round :)</p>

<p>Rh., So I dont have to post again for this simple answer, Ill just edit earlier post. Maybe it is because I just understand math. For some the SAT/ACT math might be hard but, from my own experience I thought it was rather easy. A 600 for rushing through the second half and omitting a few I didnt have time for isnt too bad.</p>

<p>I live in texas and I have to say taking the TAXS is insanely easy, because it really doesn't require any critical thinking ( no pun intended).</p>

<p>You really can't compare the ACT or SAT with the TAKS math section, because the TAKS is insanely easy and doesn't use the same type of math or level of difficulty...</p>

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I don't know about you but my fellow aggie friends who are in engineering all agreed that there are those types of tests that last all night. I am not arguing that there shouldnt be timed tests but, cmon less than a minute a questions is nuts. You get more than that in college. But then again most kids are specifically trained to take those kinds of tests by Test Masters. There have been kids who make awesome grades on the SAT and completely suck at college exams.

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<p>Maybe studying for those tests took all night... but not the actual test. I am a sophomore Aerospace Engineering major at A&M and I've never taken nor heard of tests that can take you all night.</p>

<p>I agree, the time constraint isn't too favorable... I was just trying to say that's how it is in many cases in college and also real life for that matter (especially in Engineering). </p>

<p>One example I could give was my E&M physics class here at A&M... we had 50 minutes to solve 10 work out problems that often had anywhere from 3-5 parts in each question. That's roughly a minute per question... and those weren't multiple choice. And, the average on our first exam was a 28!</p>

<p>And yes, I believe you can retake the SAT/ACT once you graduate... but that's something I'm not completely sure of.</p>

<p>Since I cant really get vouches from my friends, here is a website where people also admit there are those type of tests.
[url=<a href="http://www.texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=1264330&forum_id=17%5DTexAgs.com"&gt;http://www.texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=1264330&forum_id=17]TexAgs.com&lt;/a> - Academics<a href="read%20some%20of%20the%20posts">/url</a>
I am glad we can somehow agree on something ;) Im glad this thread didnt turn into an arguement. Yeah I here E&M can be extremely difficult at A&M which is why I might consider taking it over the summer at my CC :)</p>

<p>Wow, that's enlightening. They mentioned that they only think it exists in PETE, which would explain why I've never heard of it/done it since I'm an AERO. I'm fairly confident that doesn't happen in any other major. </p>

<p>But yeah, I'd recommend taking E&M elsewhere... it's a pain here and can hurt your GPR. I'd also suggest taking as many maths as you can at a CC too, they can be just as tough depending on the prof.</p>

<p>I dont know... I would much rather take calc 1 and 2 at A&M. It is geared more towards engineering unlike at my CC which we just learned limits, differentiation, and integration the first semester. Something tells me im going to have a rude awakening in calc 3 at A&M :( Over the winter I will be reviewing Professor Austin's website to catch up with anything I missed.</p>

<p>Hows AERO btw? Im deciding between that and Mech.</p>

<p>Calc 3 at A&M isn't too bad, I just finished it up. Just make sure you get the right professor. I'd say Calc 3 is specifically Cal I and 2 in 3D with some extra rules and plus added applications for 3D.</p>

<p>AERO is pretty awesome IMO. It's demand here is rising though because alot of the classes fill up fast. AERO 201 your first semester upper level intro class has a project near the end where you make a model airplane too.. which is pretty cool.</p>

<p>Well I have a year to decide. It sucks that I have to wait a semester to build up my GPA in order to take upper level engineering classes. :(</p>