Getting into haas as an Engineer

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<p>Hi,</p>

<p>I am an incoming freshman. I've decided to change my major from engineering physics to some type of pre-business to try and get into Haas... I've always thought between the two, but I've decided that business is better for me, after I was exposed to it the last few weeks.</p>

<p>I wanted to ask; Is that necessary? Or is it possible to transfer straight from engineering into business? And take the required prerequisites as my electives? </p>

<p>I really want to talk to an advisor, but I don't know how, and I don't really want to wait until orientation so i decided to ask the helpful CC community!</p>

<p>Thank you!</p>

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<p>You do not apply to Haas until you complete the prerequisites, usually in your second year. [Haas</a> prerequisites](<a href=“Application Process - Undergraduate Program - Berkeley Haas”>Application Process - Undergraduate Program - Berkeley Haas) are:</p>

<p>Math (which you will fulfill with the Math needed for any engineering major)
Economics 1 (counts as a lower division [H/SS</a> course](<a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/advising/HSS%20MASTER%20List%202011-12.pdf]H/SS”>http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/advising/HSS%20MASTER%20List%202011-12.pdf) in engineering)
UGBA 10 (counts as a lower division [H/SS</a> course](<a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/advising/HSS%20MASTER%20List%202011-12.pdf]H/SS”>http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/advising/HSS%20MASTER%20List%202011-12.pdf) in engineering)
Statistics 20 or 25
R&C A and B (which you should be taking anyway)</p>

<p>If you are certain that you do not want to do any type of engineering and do not want to take as much math and physics that engineering majors take, you can switch to L&S undeclared. But then you also need to have a plan for a backup major in case you do not get into Haas.</p>

<p>Alternatively, you can stay in your Engineering Physics major and take courses that work to both majors. For example (assuming no AP credit; AP English or Calculus may move you ahead), you can work toward both majors with:</p>

<p>Semester 1:
Math 1A
Chemistry 1A
R&C A +
CS 61A or Engineering 7</p>

<p>Semester 2:
Math 1B
Chemistry 1B
Physics 7A
R&C B +</p>

<p>Semester 3:
Math 53
Physics 7B
Economics 1 or UGBA 10 +
Statistics * or technical elective</p>

<p>Semester 4:
Math 54
Physics 7C
UGBA 10 or Economics 1 +
Statistics * or technical elective</p>

<ul>
<li><p>Haas lists Statistics 20 or 21; check with them if upper division Statistics is an acceptable substitute, since Engineering Physics allows upper division Statistics as technical electives.</p></li>
<li><p>Many of these courses are interchangeable in their positions in the schedule, so if it is too difficult to get into one of them, one of the others may be taken in its place.</p></li>
</ul>

<p>If you have AP credit that fulfills Math 1A (5 on Calculus AB), Math 1B (5 on Calculus BC), R&C A (4 on English), or Economics 1 (5 on both Economics), then your schedule is less cramped.</p>

<p>Of course, if you are admitted to Haas, you may have to choose one or the other, since it may be hard to cram all of the requirements for both majors into eight semesters (though simultaneous degrees may be theoretically possible if you overload your schedule and have a lot of useful AP credit).</p>

<p>Other options for majors if you are more interested in business, economics, and finance subjects, but want more math than the Haas undergraduate business courses have are:</p>

<p>Math / Economics / Statistics combination (major / minor(s) or double major)
[Industrial</a> Engineering and Operations Research](<a href=“http://ieor.berkeley.edu/AcademicPrograms/MSgrad/index.htm]Industrial”>http://ieor.berkeley.edu/AcademicPrograms/MSgrad/index.htm)
[Operations</a> Research and Management Science](<a href=“http://ieor.berkeley.edu/AcademicPrograms/MSgrad/index.htm]Operations”>http://ieor.berkeley.edu/AcademicPrograms/MSgrad/index.htm)</p>

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<p>That was probably the best response I could have hoped for.</p>

<p>I did recieve a 4 on my AP English Lit test, and my Calc and Econ results must come out in July.
This was so much help Ucbalumnus… Thank you so much! And I have looked into those majors as well.</p>

<p>Are those combinations part of the engineering curriculum? where Could I find the curriculums for those two programs?</p>

<p>I’m also wondering, if I do take this hypothetical schedule, would it put me a little behind on the engineering aspect? since I would probably stay in engineering as a backup.
And also haha, do you think you could post the common schedule for a prebusiness person? like the L/s undeclared? What is the main difference?</p>

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<p>The schedule was lifted from the [College</a> of Engineering Announcement](<a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/advising/11-12%20Announcement.pdf]College”>http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/advising/11-12%20Announcement.pdf), dropping the Haas prerequisites into the H/SS and technical elective spots of the recommended Engineering Physics major program (on page 26). You can probably do a similar schedule construction with IEOR (on page 31).</p>

<p>With a 4 on English, you do not need to take R&C A. For AP Calculus, consider the information in the following for choosing your first math course:</p>

<p>[Advanced</a> Placement (AP) Examinations - UC Berkeley Department of Mathematics](<a href=“http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_AP.html]Advanced”>http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_AP.html)
[Choosing</a> an Appropriate First Math Course — UC Berkeley College of Engineering](<a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/new-students/choosing-an-appropriate-first-math-course.html]Choosing”>http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/new-students/choosing-an-appropriate-first-math-course.html)</p>

<p>Also, other AP credit may help as well, according to page 9 of the [Undergraduate</a> Handbook](<a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/advising/advising%20handbbk%2011-12.pdf]Undergraduate”>http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/advising/advising%20handbbk%2011-12.pdf).</p>

<p>You need a 5 on both AP Economics to skip Economics 1 for Haas purposes.</p>

<p>You may want to read other stuff on the following:</p>

<p>[INFORMATION</a> FOR NEW FRESHMAN — UC Berkeley College of Engineering](<a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/new-students/information-for-new-freshman.html]INFORMATION”>http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/new-students/information-for-new-freshman.html)</p>

<p>Also, if you do switch to L&S or Haas, note that the [breadth</a> requirements](<a href=“http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/requirement/7breadth.html]breadth”>http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/requirement/7breadth.html) are different (and Haas has [more</a> restrictions](<a href=“Breadth Courses - Undergraduate Program - Berkeley Haas”>Breadth Courses - Undergraduate Program - Berkeley Haas)). When choosing additional H/SS courses, consider those which fulfill different categories in the L&S / Haas breadth list, so that you won’t be too far “behind” on breadth courses if you do switch.</p>

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<p>The impression I got when I was in school, and from the postings here, is that most pre-business types were/are not strong or enthusiastic in math and science the way engineering students tend to be (and their backup majors were usually something like Economics (“less math” option), Political Economy, Media Studies, or other social studies type of major). So most would only take Math 16A/16B (unless their backup major required 1A/1B or more advanced math) and not take any of the Physics or Chemistry courses that you could take as an Engineering Physics major. Breadth courses and/or courses for one’s backup major would fill in the empty spots in the schedule.</p>

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