<p>If you take all AP classes in high school and get A's in those classes and get a perfect score on the SAT and ACT. What are your chances of getting into Harvard now?</p>
<p>Every year, Harvard rejects people who get perfect scores on the SAT. Good stats alone will not get you into Harvard.</p>
<p>Stats aren’t good enough really, it’s so much more.</p>
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<p>2340 SAT
Taken 11 / 13 APs offered at school
3.95+ UW GPA
Founded three clubs</p>
<p>Expecting rejection!</p>
<p>2390 SAT single-sitting
Taken 9 APs, also full IB diploma candidate
4.00 UW GPA</p>
<p>also expecting rejection
seriously, it’s a crapshoot</p>
<p>Apparently they arent taking straight up nerds anymore, from what i have read you need to have really strongs ECs along with good grades and scores… However i also tend to read that people with perfect scores get rejected alot.</p>
<p>Id say you dont have much of a chance</p>
<p>Applicants with a 2400 on the SAT and 4.0 UW GPA, given no other information, probably have a chance greater than 50%.</p>
<p>IBscrewed- hi i was wondering what subjects you chose for ib diploma, im really having a hard time to decide, especially foreign language. thanks</p>
<p>0800dk, i sent you a private message, check your inbox.
we don’t want to get off topic in this thread :]</p>
<p>also, silverturtle, i’d be very surprised if 50% of those applicants would get in… that would mean i have a pretty high chance, and i don’t think i do</p>
<p>thank you ibscrewed , i have replyed , and sorry OP!!</p>
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<p>Princeton said that it accepts 50% of its 2400ers. Harvard’s slightly higher selectivity does not compensate for the advantage afforded by additionally having a 4.0 UW. It’s perfectly reasonable to estimate one’s chance at 50-60% given just those two data.</p>
<p>This is not to say, however, that one who has no ECs, poor curricular rigor, and poor Subject Test scores has that chance; they certainly do not.</p>
<p>^I think it’s fair to say that that is the reason someone with 2400/4.0 UW has only a 50-60% chance.</p>
<p>If academics were all Harvard looked at, they would have a 100% chance, but for those “perfect” students don’t have the other components of a strong application, which I think a good half of them might not have, their chances go back down.</p>
<p>However, I think it is a very strong misconception on these forums that a 2400/4.0 makes students a target for top schools to reject them - Harvard does NOT pride itself on rejecting 2400’s…it’s just that some of them are not what it’s looking for. I always get annoyed when schools say “Oh, we rejected half of our 2400s last year” to make a statement about how selective it is. I mean, they probably rejected 99% of its 1200s…lol? I just think that after saying that they look at applications holistically, just to justify their selectivity by test scores…I mean that just defeats the purpose.</p>
<p>ANYWAYS getting off the soapbox…
OP, you have a very good chance at getting into Harvard with such stats, but unfortunately most of the applicants to Harvard have equally good chances…which is a good way of saying that everyone, with their good chances on an absolute scale, have lower chances on a relative scale.</p>
<p>I do think it’s fair to say that good grades are a cornerstone to a successful Harvard application, but it is not the one thing that will get you in. However, it can be the one thing that keeps you out even with outstanding ecs, etc. if it demonstrates that you would struggle to keep up with the basic academic work once matriculated.</p>
<p>And I’m going to stop rambling…</p>
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<p>You did not explain the error that I made; you merely emphasized the CC cliche that academics aren’t everything.</p>
<p>Please excuse post #12: I misread bsDBer2010’s comment.</p>
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<p>I don’t think that would be true after the first year. Students would catch on, stop doing ECs, practice taking the SAT/ACT until they got perfect scores, and then expect to be admitted.</p>
<p>Getting a perfect score isn’t that difficult and isn’t reflective of a student’s potential to succeed in college, which is why that would never happen. Unfortunately 
They should start this year.</p>
<p>so how many APs do you have to take in order to get into harvard</p>
<p>You are obviously not understanding what we’ve been trying to tell you.</p>
<p>I think you should try to take all 25 or how ever many there are offered. Then, when you’re done, repeat. That should be enough for Harvard.</p>
<p>Just fyi, last year 44% of those with 2400s were accepted. (I’m not sure about the 4.0, but 95% probably had at least top 5%)</p>
<p>Honestly guys, Harvard is a dream not a privilege or an expectation. If you are lucky enough to get in throw a parade! but if not accept that only 1600 semi-randomly chosen people get into Harvard (not that those who get in don’t deserve it! there’s just always another equally qualified person to fill their place; Harvard’s talent pool is certainly not shallow).</p>
<p>I’ve got a 2340 SAT, 800 Math2, 790 USH, 770 Lit, Val, 4 APs (all 5s) and another 5 this year + great recs/essays and 7 main ECs (3 unique, 4 strong but “typical” lol), and I do not expect to get in. I fully expect rejection.</p>
<p>Do not fret over HYPSM. I know two kids that are among the top 100 graduating seniors in the country; they are truly UNBELIEVABLE! They’ve done things that college grads would salivate at, and yet, like me, they were rejected EA from Stanford. Do not expect to get in anywhere (other than your matches/safeties).</p>
<p>Best of luck! I’ll tell you how I do come March 31st ;)</p>
<p>USNAgolden2014. I’ve missed you.</p>
<p>EDIT: USNAgolden2014 is so right. We know each other, and he is one of the two AMAZING applicants to Stanford that got rejected to Stanford. I imagine he wasn’t including himself in the two, but I definitely would. Whoever the two people he’s talking about are, there’s a third. USNAgolden2014 himself.</p>
<p>My point, besides my worship of him, is that amazing applicants get rejected all the time. Stop trying to count APs or maximize your GPA. It’s not going to make a significant impact. Do things you love. Excel at them. If that’s not enough, then the college doesn’t deserve you.</p>
<p>HAHA Anonymous93 I adore you XD</p>
<p>But people this is exactly what I’m talking about. For every one person that gets in, there are 3 people that are just as good to take their place. Admittance rates really don’t reflect the quality of the pool. I always assumed that 80% of the apps were throwaway apps and that only 20% really counted, and while (Harvard especially) does have A LOT of longshot apps, that doesn’t mean that there still aren’t a ton of amazing kids.</p>