Getting into MIT PhD EECS

<p>Anyone have any stats on MIT PhD EECS admission rates?</p>

<p>Low. I know UIUC ECE is around 2-3%, and I cannot imagine MIT is any better.</p>

<p>how did you find this information?</p>

<p>During my interview. The professor told me that the “section” was accepting 3 or 4 students out of the 150 or so applicants, and that this was typical for the department.</p>

<p>wow… did you get in?</p>

<p>Yes, but I also applied at MIT and was rejected there.</p>

<p>According to Petersons, the UIUC ECE department has an admissions rate of 16%. And that is probably because 2/3rd of applicants are internationals. For domestic I would not be surprised if 30+% are admitted.</p>

<p>What can I say, I was given different numbers, and I’m not sure where Peterson’s gets theirs. As for domestic vs international, I am not sure why you think a higher proportion of domestic students are admitted - other than federally-funded fellowships, there is little incentive to take domestic over international. At UIUC I’ve been in 2 lab groups (didn’t care for the first one, so I switched), and between the 20 or so students maybe 3-4 of us were US nationals.</p>

<p>Ms. Goldfish, I apologize if I have slighted you by suggesting your university is not as competitive as your wild fantasies suggest. It is a well-known fact that the admissions rate for international students is only a fraction of that for domestic applicants. </p>

<p>Your “section” might be much more competitive than other fields of ECE, perhaps? Not sure.</p>

<p>It’s Mr. Fish, not Ms., and you have not slighted me that I have noticed. I am not offering any “wild fantasies” - I have stated what I was told, by the professor who was offering me admission, as he said it. It may be that my area is more competitive than most, but I suspect not (electromagnetics and remote sensing) - not an area that draws a tremendous crowd.</p>

<p>I don’t personally care how competitive the school is - I have a long-term employment contract and have no aspirations towards academia, I chose the school because I liked the department and the town. </p>

<p>I do, however, distrust both “well-known facts” and those who quote them. If the international admissions rate is lower than the domestic admissions rate, then the ratio of international applications to domestic must be absolutely staggering to account for the numerical dominance of international students in the department. 39% of the grad students at UIUC are international, predominantly in the sciences and engineering.</p>

<p>MIT EECS is ~6% with CS being lower and EE being higher. Doesn’t include the MEng program for MIT undergrads. Everyone is expected to go onto PhD. Illinois is 25% for MS, 7% for PhD, 17% overall (the data is publicly available through DMI). The MS number is somewhat inflated by Illinois’s own undergraduates getting easy acceptance, but its really not that competitive. In fact, MS isn’t competitive at most other places either, even Stanford. The very low acceptance rates at some EECS programs (like MIT and Berkeley) is usually because they have only PhD-track admissions.</p>

<p>7% PhD admissions I’ll believe, as the professor giving me the numbers may not have understood me when I asked about department numbers. 7% vs 2-3% likely indicates that my particular department has comparatively poor funding and therefore few assistantships to offer.</p>

<p>GShine, where did you find grad admissions stats on DMI? All I found was freshman enrollment…</p>

<p>I also would like to ask where you found graduation admission statistics. I can’t seem to find it.</p>

<p>[Management</a> Information - University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign](<a href=“http://www.dmi.illinois.edu/cp/]Management”>2022-2023 Campus Profile - Campus Total)
Electrical Computer Engineering
Standard Profile
Graduate Applications (ctrl+f “4160”)
Click on the number for total graduate applications</p>

<p>GShine - thanks! That was hard to find! Not sure what to make of my almost-advisor’s numbers… he seems too highly placed to not know the real numbers, but to take his statement at face value means my section got 25% of applications but only 10% of admissions…</p>

<p>Still, its impressive that UIUC releases all that data! 64% of ECE PhD candidates are international, and only 14% are women?</p>

<p>I am curious about the admissions rate for internationals vs domestics.</p>

<p>Here are detailed admission statistics for the University of Washington.
<a href=“http://grad.washington.edu/about/statistics/summaries/2009/rptGsisAnnual_department.pdf[/url]”>http://grad.washington.edu/about/statistics/summaries/2009/rptGsisAnnual_department.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If you go to “Electrical Engineering”, you’ll see what I mean!</p>

<p>It varies from school to school, but most top-tier schools in engineering see high numbers or majorities of international students. UWash is a good school overall, but not really a top-tier in engineering. 44% of MIT grad students are international students, compared to only 16% at UWash.</p>

<p>Of the 775 applications at UW, 552 were international students - unless I’m reading the chart wrong. The vast majority of the internationals were rejected, it seems.</p>

<p>So what you’re saying is that higher ranked schools like Illinois, GT, Stanford will have a more balanced admissions rate between domestics and internationals? Interesting.</p>

<p>I think that low rate of admission for international student is also related to applicant’s nationality.
Since there are a lot of applicants from China and India (even more than domestic I suppose), Universities try to have a good balance between the nations represented in their campuses, trying to avoid departments of only chinese and indian people.
I think that’s the main reason for the divergence between domestic and international admission rates.</p>

<p>^^ There’s also the issue of internationals not fully understanding the US system and what it takes to get into a top program. Many unqualified internationals apply to top US schools along with their extremely well-qualified countrymen. Yes, unqualified Americans apply, too, but it’s less likely for an American student with average stats/ability/experience to apply to, say, MIT than for an international to do so. Americans pretty much know when they don’t have a shot at a given program. It’s much more difficult for international students to accurately gauge their qualifications – unless, of course, they attended a US undergraduate institution and have the advising that Americans do.</p>

<p>Out of all the fields, engineering is perhaps the most international at the graduate school level. Private universities, because they don’t have a state mandate, can be more generous toward international students, although that doesn’t mean that internationals cannot get funded at public universities. Private universities can take the best students no matter their country of origin. I’m not sure that’s true for publics.</p>