<p>I read that getting into UNC from out-of-state is harder than getting into Duke. Do you guys think this is true?</p>
<p>For Freshmen applicants, UNC is required to take around 82% in-state which leaves for only 18% of the population to be from out of state.</p>
<p>There are some threads this year stating the rate for OSS is about 18% but i am not sure if that is true. Every year the stats change except for the statutorily quota of 82% instate freshmen. That seldom changes. for the remaining 18% the acceptance rate is dependent on number of applications for those slots and HOW many freshman spaces they have. Seems like the total number of spaces were 4200 this year?! so do the math on that to see how many OSS spaces were available, then you can arrive at a chance of admission by taking the number of applications from OSS for those spots. Transfers easier. If you have good numbers, write good essays, get stellar recs and show leadership or overcoming hardship...you have a very good shot. good luck.</p>
<p>If you are an international applicant, the quota is extremely insane--the official website of the Office of Undergraduate Admissions says that they only admit 50 international students each year.</p>
<p>tomahawk, no offense but the OSS rate is not much better, 350-400 students? out of a bout 3500-4200 freshmen? I wonder if those 50 international students are a part of the total 18% OSS....That is a pretty big chunk I would say.</p>
<p>They "admit" 50 internationals, and there were about 760 "enrolled" OOS's, according to last year's statistics. Given the fact, we can assume that admitted OOS applicant pool is much bigger than that. According to the website, each year about 600 internationals apply for admission and only 50 of them are admitted. That is about 8.3% acceptance. Note that Harvard only accepts about 9% from the entire applicant pool.</p>
<p>Getting into UNC OOS is undeniably very competitive, especially since a large portion of the 18% out of state is athletes. So, really, I'd guess only like 8% of people are OOS non-athletes. Anybody have an actual figure on that? I could certainly see somebody getting into Duke and not getting into UNC OOS, but I don't think it's the norm. I still think Duke is a tad bit harder to get into. At least, from my high school in IL, people routinely use UNC and UVa as safeties for Duke since they're similar areas of the country and all good schools, and I've never actually heard of somebody get into Duke and not UNC - but, again, I'm sure it has happened. Maybe it's just my high school.</p>
<p>I would expect that UNC is harder to get into out of state because it is a top state school. Duke is a PRIVATE UNIVERSITY. It has no such obligations. While Duke overall is the harder school to get into, I would think that UNC is harder to get in for OOS freshmen admissions. Duke dominates transfer admission.</p>
<p>We are proud that our son got accepted to UNC OOS. However, he was not accepted to Duke, so I cannot say it is harder to get accepted to UNC OOS than Duke. Luckily, he preferred UNC to Duke - so we are happy.</p>
<p>I was accepted to UNC OOS and waitlisted at Duke, but I know many people for whom it is the opposite.</p>
<p>had a friend waitlisted at duke, accepted to UNC as well as Princeton</p>
<p>I got into UNC but was denied at Duke. I was also wait listed at Carnegie Mellon and Northwestern.</p>
<p>got into UNC (OOS), UVA (OOS), MICH (OOS), VANDY, and NYU STERN but was rejected at UPENN and DUKE.....if that helps you to get a gauge of the difficulty</p>
<p>Just some more info .... while my son made UNC OOS and was rejected from Duke, he made Emory and Northwestern. Did not make Georgetown.</p>
<p>FWIW, Duke admit pct is 23% and UNC OOS is 20%.</p>
<p>For the rest of the story:
ACT 25-75 range: Duke 29-34, UNC OOS 26-33
SAT 25-75 range: Duke 1390-1530,UNC OOS 1250-1440</p>
<p>I had an ACT of 33, and 4.35 weighted GPA, captain of XC team, prez of INTERACT club: rejected at Duke, Georgetown, Cornell, Dartmouth, UPenn, and Stanford accepted early to UNC Chapel Hill(OOS), U of Michigan Honors (OOS) and Notre Dame</p>
<p>My husband made a comment similar to Bluedog's, and last night I counted the number of OOS athletes. I counted 459 (including the whole fencing team of 57 because that roster didn't say where they came from). </p>
<p>I think the admissions web site said they enrolled 3895 freshmean last year; 18% is about 700. If you take the athletes off, it leaves about 241 (6%) for non-athletes. This methodology has flaws. I don't know anything about athletics and recruiting, but it seems unlikely that all 400+ OOS students that happen to be on an athletic team were recruited. Even so, maybe my daughter should take up lacrosse-- I think the whole team is OOS.</p>
<p>I am pretty sure that athletes don't count toward the OOS total.</p>
<p>I agree Heather, that is what I have been told also (at least recruited ones)</p>
<p>I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that the only athletes that do not count against the total (i.e. are considered IS) are those receiving full scholarships. Many athletes do not receive full scholarships.</p>