@tsbna44 we are not hell bent on this option…just putting out feelers as it is very evident that it is difficult to get an open answer from the corresponding University reps. We are also not new to state to state moves. We are based out of CA and S23 is applying to Architecture @ SLO and Pomona, Civil @ SJSU. He is applying for Architecture (either BArch/BS. Arch) at the above mentioned OOS universities. We all are very aware of how long and strenuous the licensing journey can be for this major and hence looking at OOS to possible residency option past his Sophomore year.
But in other words, and the reason I ask for stats is - what if there are other schools - and just throwing out names - a Mizzou or Alabama or Florida State or - many - where you can get such good merit it saves you the move, etc?
Why I’m asking.
I get it- you are looking longer term but some schools have 4/5 years of merit - and then you can handle the rest later - either through they grant the student residency or you have time to establish yourself.
If those are the schools he wants, then yep - you have an issue. But if he’s open to others, then depending on his gpa/act, you might have a whole lot of low cost options that don’t require residency.
The OOS list was something that he felt comfortable moving to and also because of the programs. His stats so far is 4.18W/3.98UW, 1450 SAT
So at a UAB (seems like he likes city schools) or UAH, he’s gonna go dirt cheap. Cheaper than in-state.
Mizzou - $21.5K off so cheaper than in-state. And they have an in-state path for later.
WVU, Ole Miss, WVU, Alabama, FSU (if can get in - no certainty and the SAT may be low), Maine - others will have more recommendations. Some regional schools, etc.
There’s options - without you having to move.
Also, if you are in CA - have you looked at WUE?
Architecture shows Col State, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana State, UNLV, New Mexico, No Dakota State, Portland State, South Dakota State, Utah State, Utah Valley, Utah.
For Civil Engineering, there’s even more schools on WUE.
Just something to think about - but on WUE, you pay 150% of that states tuition and many schools are inexpensive.
Personally, I think “moving” for sake of gaining residency is unnecessary if it’s solely for cost based reasons - unless your child is hell bent on those schools and only those schools.
Good luck.
If you’re looking for an affordable path to a B. Arch or M. Arch, U. of Louisiana - Lafayette (scholarship info) and Louisiana Tech (scholarship details) would both be super affordable for a kid with your stats. (Those scholarships would be in addition to out-of-state tuition waivers which your kid would likely receive.) They’re both NAAB-accredited for the M. Arch and related Bachelor’s degrees that lead up to the M. Arch. LSU offers a B. Arch, and would likely give good merit aid as well, though I don’t know if it’d be as generous as the other two Louisiana publics.
As you’re a current California resident, that means that the WUE schools are also open to you. Montana State’s M. Arch program is only 18 months past the Bachelor’s, and undergrad tuition is less than $8500/year for WUE members. U. of Idaho’s WUE tuition is $9300. U. of New Mexico is just over $10k and UNLV is just over $11k, both for WUE residents. All of these offer NAAB-accredited M. Arch programs (and likely have a relevant undergrad degree to lead up to it).
These are just some additional options to consider if you’re looking for an affordable architecture education. These would probably end up as less expensive than any of the universities you are thinking about trying to get in-state residency for.
Re: WUE, it can be a great option, but many schools limit the total number of WUE ‘scholarships’, and some limit the majors that qualify. As always, careful research is necessary.
Very true. I’m not sure if the link will show all the filters I used, but verifying all info is always a best practice: WUE link.
Oops, I totally missed @tsbna’s post right above my earlier one. Lots of good suggestions there (some of which I unknowingly replicated)!
@tsbna44 @AustenNut @Mwfan1921 yes, we did look at WUE, shortlisted and visited some of them and he is considering CU Denver, Portland State, and WS Pullman. They are just not his top choices except CU Denver. Appreciate all the other suggestions that have merit based scholarships. Will share with him to take a look at. Thank you all!!
@tigerwife92 was this at a SC public? I’m asking because our kid received a scholarship also, but it included a reduction to the instate residency tuition. We didn’t need to move to SC (our kid didn’t attend…but…).
UofSC offers OOS scholarships that get to in-state rates. Clemson offers auto OOS merit that takes a chunk off the OOS rate based strictly on stats. She received the highest auto OOS merit plus a departmental and alumni scholarship; once we switched to in-state, she was no longer eligible for the O0S scholarship portion, BUT she was able to keep her other scholarships. We didn’t move specifically to get in-state rates, but once she decided on Clemson we wanted to take advantage of the lower rate. She could have remained an OOS student with her scholarships, but we didn’t have a reason to stay in NC. DH had switched jobs while she was HS and became a remote employee right before covid. We’d been relo for 15 years and had moved several times while she was in K-12. We told her we would stay put for her entire high school stint. We had always planned on retiring to this area because most of our friends are here. We were just able to move earlier since she chose Clemson. If she had chosen one of her other 2 OOS favorites, we wouldn’t have moved to those states. She made her decision over winter break of her senior year, so that gave us time to schedule the move. We definitely took advantage of the opportunity to move to our “early retirement” lake house well, minus the actual retirement.
Edited to add: I definitely wouldn’t recommend doing all of this just to get in-state rates; the cost of moving, stress, $ for necessary repairs, etc would IMO outweigh the savings. It was great for us because we didn’t WANT to stay in NC; we were only there so D20 could finish HS. If she’d chosen NCSU, we would’ve remained in NC until she graduated college and then moved to SC, so for us the cost of moving was inevitable.
Do you know what the stats (SAT/GPA) are for merit this year Our school does not rank? Thank you!
A few years back, I knew a family at our school where the parents were divorced, and one lived in our city in NC (which is a few miles from the SC border) and the other moved just over the border into SC. It is very common for students who live just over the SC border to commute to the various private schools in our NC city (so college applications would show a SC residence but an NC high school). One daughter chose an in-state college in NC and the other chose an in-state in SC, and they were able to get the in-state rate for both.
That may be because there was a parent with residency in each state.
Yeah, no doubt. I’m not sure whether they planned it that way when they chose where each parent would reside, I just thought it was an interesting anecdote on the residency issue, and one kind of unique to states where crossing over borders for work or school is a regular occurrence.