Getting your books

<p>Once ppl on your floor find out you have the ssm you'll be more popular</p>

<p>Everyone tends to leech off of the guy that has it.</p>

<p>oh yea, btw, the back of the custom book has answers to odd # problems... the ssm shows the steps to do odd # problems</p>

<p>How about the even problems?</p>

<p>^For certain the answers aren't in the textbook... I think they might not be in the SSM either (you should ask someone else)</p>

<p>I've also seen the .pdf versions of the SSM on DC++ before too, so you cold save some $30 by just downloading it when the hub comes back online</p>

<p>No answers to even problems. Those would be in the student solutions manual.</p>

<p>And unless you plan on going on to Math 53 and 54, don't bother getting the full version of the book, just get the Berkeley custom version. It's much, much lighter and costs much less.</p>

<p>Is there a new edition of the Math 1A textbook or is it the same as last year's? I might get my textbooks through Ned's, but I'm not sure if they would have the same edition as the Bookstore.</p>

<p>Why wouldn't they? Ned's is just as up-to-date as the bookstore is. You should get your books through Ned's because their prices are USUALLY slightly lower than the bookstore's. I've never bothered with the university bookstore. Their buyback policy sucks (only a very limited number of books have the "half back guaranteed") and usually you can get more money for your used books if you sell it online instead of opting with buyback.</p>

<p>would going online (half.com etc.) be cheaper than goign to neds?</p>

<p>^<br>
Yup.</p>

<p>Can we buy books from the bookstore then sell them to Ned's?</p>

<p>bump..
yes please i'd like that too</p>

<p>Yes, but again, stuff from the bookstore is usually more expensive than stuff at Ned's.</p>

<p>I wanna go the International edition route, The chem book is soooo much cheaper, I jsut hope the resale value aint too bad</p>

<p>Buyback value will be crap, almost guaranteed. You'll get a better deal if you sell it online.</p>

<p>Alright sorry if I'm rehashing some of these questions but I just want to be clear before I buy all this junk for chem 1a.</p>

<p>According to: </p>

<p>Search</a> by Course | Buy Textbooks | Ned's - Berkeley</p>

<p>we need the lab notebook, manual, and iclicker (general non graphing scientific calculator replacing the ti30x). I'm guessing the iclicker is used for computer data collecting/graphs/etc? And there are, as has been stated previously, what appears to be multiple (3) chemistry books. Do we just need the ONE "Chemistry, Moore" textbook for the class? What purpose do the other two serve?</p>

<p>iclicker is used for quizzes in class.</p>

<p>you just need chemistry, moore textbook. this is available in hard copy or in ebook. ebook comes with the owl access card that you have to buy for homework so if you don't mind reading ebook, then you don't need hardcopy. the school offers the hardcopy and OWL bundle for the higher price.</p>

<p>if you would like, you can buy the solution manual/study guide (one book only) but i find that wasn't very useful at all.</p>

<p>REQUIRED
-iClicker
-Textbook by Moore 3rd edition (looks just like the one on Ned's pic-iceberg/blue picture)
-OWL (online web-based learning = HW)
-Lab notebook
-Lab manual
-Non-graphing calculator</p>

<p>*OWL comes with Moore's book in a package</p>

<p>OPTIONAL (AKA DONT BUY)
SG (study guide)
SSM (student solution manual)
Barcharts/Periodic table (useless!)</p>

<p>why not get the study guide & solution manual?</p>

<p>also, if i'm on the waiting list for math 1a, when should i decide to get the book?</p>

<p>They're up to personal preference but here's my opinion:</p>

<p>Study guide: the lecture slides Stacy/Boering/Majda prepare are pretty comprehensive and specific about what you need to know. It's definitely not worth $70 retail.</p>

<p>Solutions Manual: most people won't do the book problems b/c of OWL. You can redo old OWL HW problems over again for the length of your subscription. Some problems, involving calculations, change #s and essentially generate new problems every time you redo them. The SSM is so not worth paying $50.</p>

<p>If you buy the SSM and SG at retail price that an extra $120 plus tax on top of a textbook, iclicker, manual, notebook, calc (over $200). You'll end up spending over $300 for just one class... don't forget other classes you signed up for too. Unless you're filthy rich the required materials should suffice for chem 1a.</p>

<p>stacy tests ONLY on lecture material, assigned reading not covered in lecture will not be on exams. she also provides problem sets and solution keys to those problems assigned.</p>

<p>Stacy seems like a good, friendly teacher, its weird that a basic Chem class is such a weeder</p>