Girls Complaining That Guys Are Always Looking At Them

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<p>Barely anyone here understands the concept of what a right is.</p>

<p>Some people say there are natural rights, but basically the only relevant and proper use of the word right is to refer to your actual, legally-protected rights. Everything else is mumbo jumbo, and you are misusing the word.</p>

<p>I have the right to stare at a girls melons, and then she has the right to get ****ed, and then she has the right to throw her drink at me, and I have the right to call my lawyer, and then she has the right to go on a killing spree, and then the government has a right to imprison her… stop abusing the word you toddlers. If you want to argue morals just say so. Baelor believes that ethically, or morally, it is wrong to check out a girl. Or maybe it’s an argument concerning practicality - if you check out a girl, there may be consequences. But we all know the latter is not really true.</p>

<p>Anyway, this argument is just tired---- the girls who are most vocal about guys hitting on them or staring at them are most often the ones who are half-fugly and crave attention from their gal-pals.</p>

<p>Hot girls who get stared at/ hit on all the time don’t really care - they are secure about their attractiveness, not trying to impress their friends, and it happens so often to complain about it non-stop would be tiresome.</p>

<p>Plus, being hit on (by someone you find unappealing, presumbably - if it’s a hot guy you’d thank him) - is much more ‘invasive’ and voluntary than some guy just looking at a girl. Anyone can look at you and will look at you.</p>

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<p>No girls do not wear those clothes just so men can look at them and stare. Do you think guys wear shorts so chicks can check out their legs? It’s because those people feel comfortable in shorts, be it because it’s hot outside or it’s easy to move around. </p>

<p>Also, to those who say girls don’t know what they mean or, to girls no means yes and yes means no. Do not spread this myth and/or encourage it. This is one reason why rape happens. Men think a girl doesn’t know what she wants or she’s just being shy and really wants the guy, which causes him to be aggressive with her.</p>

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<p>agree with parker.
Good thread; very funny. The most interesting poster has to be the one who seems to be at odds with almost every poster here: MissSilvestris. Her responses to the slightest opposition is like a pilot who feels a little turbulence and jerks the flight-stick the opposite direction: extreme and polarizing. </p>

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<p>Then say that. Don’t give these vague euphemisms, because that often lead to confusion for the guy. When did nice become a synonym for nice? Get a frikin clue!
I do have to disagree with the person who said that girls say yes and mean no and vice versa. Again, extremes there. I would say that the meaning is sometimes muddled and hard to discern for guys, cough nice boring.</p>

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<p>Girls dress up more to impress other girls. We know that most men do not notice the difference between completely puffed hair or slightly teased hair. They don’t know if Prada is more expensive or Coach, they don’t know what type of layering is in and what accessories are nicer. If girls were going to an all girl party/convention/meeting w/e they will still dress their best. Girls do take longer than men to get ready because what girls consider pretty takes a lot more than just brushing your hair, putting a shirt and pants on and walking out the door. Men have short hair so it doesn’t take as long for them to style their hair or wash it(reason why women take longer in the shower.) Men don’t put on as much jewelry as girls and because of media we are used to girls having to wear makeup to look normal. </p>

<p>A girls main focus in life is not to get a man. Girls have other goals than just that. Now yes everyone loves attention. All people and animals need it. So to get attention humans dress up well and look nice to get positive attention. A lot of men look at the way they look in the clothes they buy, fix their hair and make sure they look good. Same with girls only it takes longer for girls because they have more to do.</p>

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<p>Everyone stares. Whether it’s college students or men old enough to be your dad. No one said anything about covering up like a puritan, there is such thing as a middle ground.</p>

<p>There is no point of showing cleavage or wearing booty shorts except for attention. If one wants to wear that stuff, that is one’s prerogative, but don’t expect creeps not to start leering.</p>

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<p>Oh gosh, there goes Peter philosophizing again :rolleyes:</p>

<p>I love you Spidey, but lay off the philosophy a little. Please? It just not making that much sense…</p>

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<p>No I must agree with him the amount of people abusing the word “right” in this thread is astonishing</p>

<p>Reminds me of a little passage from Rousseau’s good book…</p>

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<p>The bottom line is that people dress to get attention from others (opp. sex/peers/etc.) Animals, such as, peacocks have lots of feathers to attract attention–clothes and people are no exception. And don’t kid me, people in our age group are craving the attention (although there are exceptions…very few). Girls get judged by GIRLS AND GUYS, so they dress better, usually. In all honesty, if you don’t want people to check out your melons/ass, then don’t dress like that–plain and simple. And if you’re a guy, make sure your glance/looks are quick and subtle. hahahah</p>

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<p>What might these goals be? Do you mean careers? Eventually, most/many girls will want to settle down, right? And obviously, there are exceptions to this. However, a man can stay single and be successful–a woman, not so much. Obviously, times have changed, but I still think a woman being with a man is equated with (some) kind of success (i.e. family/provider). I was talking to my friend (the one I was referring to in my post, about her taking 30 min to get ready…), about cooking in the apt’s and pigging out on food. She said, “Um…well, I can’t afford to pig out.” I responded, “Whaaaa–??” . She replied back, like it was obvious, “I’m a girl.” She’s skinny and has a fast metabolism, I dunno what she’s worrying about. In a separate, unrelated, conversation, her roommate, also told me something similar, however, she’s seeing someone, long distance. The roommate said, “I can’t afford to gain weight!” Of course, I’m thinking, “huh?” Your BF ain’t gonna see you for another 2 months, and I’m sure he likes you the way you are!</p>

<p>There’s lots of pressure, for girls to remain attractive. I suppose you can argue that even if a girl is NOT looking for a guy, she still wants to remain attractive in the eyes of alll the others girls–but honestly don’t think this is the whole reason. Many/Most girls just want the attention of a guy, to be know they are loved and be loved, its human nature. </p>

<p>My point is that, male or female, crave the attention of the opposite sex. This is the ulterior motive, and, yes, I do think its subconscious, esp. for many girls who don’t want to seem as if they are horny.</p>

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<p>^I agree with about half of what you said… </p>

<p>First off, guess what? Many women CAN have a career and children. Plus, stay-at-home dads are becoming MUCH more common. I have made it clear to my fiance that he is to be a stay-at-home dad and he is more than thrilled with that.</p>

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<p>Not true anymore unless you as a woman make it that way. Women can be single and successful just as easily as men nowadays if they want to. Now, most women don’t subconsciously want to (women are biologically designed to want children), but it is easy to be successful without a man. </p>

<p>Also, I don’t get the whole staying-skinny-for-my-man thing. Honey, if he’s with you for your looks- get out now because looks fade, shallowness stays there forever. I’ve been with my boy for 4 years (and my weight has ranged from 120 to 180). Never said a peep and if he did, he’d be gone. </p>

<p>Hmm… “attractiveness” is overrated when it is code for makeup and other cosmetic things. Many of my guy friends tell me that a woman taking more than 10 minutes to get ready is a HUGE turnoff. I agree with them. If a man can’t take you at your worst then he doesn’t deserve you at your best (paraphrased from Marilyn Monroe). I have never used makeup in just every day life or short skirts or skimpy tops and yet have never once had an issue finding a date or not getting attention from males and females.</p>

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<p>I’ll never forget the conversation I had with my sister about 20 years ago. She told me it annoyed her when she went to the gym and guys checked her out. I told her to wear something different and she replied, “But I want to look cute.” Duh!!</p>

<p>BTW she’s a lawyer now.</p>

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<p>Pressue from who? Attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder. I like girls who wear very little or no makeup at all. Some people might not find that attractive, but other do.</p>

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<p>Not me. I can care less about getting attention from others.</p>

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<p>**** off pls</p>

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<p>I whole-heartedly second that.</p>

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<p>Well evolutionarily the pressure is to have as many well-raised children as possible – for both sexes. But one sex bears the children and expends the child-bearing resources. This makes the dynamic asymmetric. </p>

<p>For one, this makes women much more selective about mates. This is why in nature, it is men who give the mating displays – because childbirth process is already amazingly taxing on the female and functions as its own selection process. </p>

<p>Now males are not always the “parasitic sex” since parasitism is relative. For example in Silene vulgaris, there are situations where producing pollen is often analysed as being “altruistic” and refraining from producing sperm is often analysed as being parasitic.</p>

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<p>I don’t know about the rest of the chicks up in here, but when I get dressed up, I dress up for ME (and now my boyfriend) because I like making myself look as good as possible and it’s fun.</p>

<p>Not that I am attractive (I’m your typical plain Jane), but I have gotten unwanted, borderline sexual harrassment from strange men, even when I was just wearing a top and jeans. It’s not fun/cute.</p>

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LOL at the listen-to-me-now-girls speech. I would have to say that personally, i find looks to be a pretty big part of it, though the girl has to be somewhat intelligent and quirky/funny as well.
By the way, wutang, i think that your little vignettes on science/ethics, while interesting, kind of distort what we are talking about. For example, the legality of looking at someone was never an issue, nor was how other organisms behave–though it is cool.
The issue is trying to locate the line of social taboo, and to understand it from a girl’s perspective since they are they are the ones who invariably draw the line for us guys.</p>

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<p>And what happens when looks fade? Do you dispose of the girl and then run off to the next hot 20-something that walks by?</p>

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<p>Girls must be incredibly more confusing to guys than I had previously judged if they are THIS determined to create their own theories and completely ignore what anonymous girls who have no motive to lie to them are saying.</p>

<p>On a separate note…</p>

<p>"I’ll never forget the conversation I had with my sister about 20 years ago. She told me it annoyed her when she went to the gym and guys checked her out. I told her to wear something different and she replied, “But I want to look cute.” Duh!!</p>

<p>BTW she’s a lawyer now."</p>

<p>I won’t work out in co-ed gyms for that same reason, my gym is women only. I still dress decently when I go to the gym though, because it feels good to know you look good. It has nothing to do with trying to impress the old women at Ladies of America. Men would have to be EXTREMELY arrogant to assume that a girl is dressing nice just to get his attention. (surprise!)</p>

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<p>Yes it was.</p>

<p>You DO NOT use the term “right” for what are called “social recommendations”. Otherwise you dilute the meaning of this important concept. Stop abusing the concept. Rights are defined by social contracts and the law.</p>

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<p>Well no it’s an analysis of sexual behaviour.</p>