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It’s not illogical in the familiar sense. Rather, it is not logically proven in the traditional sense. I would cut out the arrogance and superiority complex though. I would hardly call some of the most brilliant philosophers in the history of mankind (i.e., St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine) completely irrational and devoid of logic, which you do by saying that religion has no place in rationality.

Not what I said. Your post contained an admission that your belief was not logical on the strictest sense. That is it for your argument. I was talking about my discussion with you.</p>

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Even Pope John Paul the Second was incredibly intelligent.</p>

<p>But of course, you are well-versed in all aspects Christianity, because you can make such sweeping and derogatory claims toward it?

I did not make derogatory claims. You are reading them into my statements because I am arguing against Christianity. If I appeared derogatory it is because I think religion is illogical. You may correct me and offer arguments against my view if you wish.</p>

<p>Let me quote you again as part of my answer:“religion doesn’t obey traditional logic”</p>

<p>There is no other special logic that exists. Logic is logic is logic. Something must be proven logically in the traditional sense, as no other kind of non traditional proof exists. Even then it can only be established as likely and not proven 100%. Kant, a FAR greater philosopher than the ones you mention (and a Christian incidentally) would agree with me on that.</p>