<p>Here it is! the debate of your life time! , right here in CC, where all the smart people meet</p>
<p>oh wow, you want to create an arguement to have two million replies
i really don't know if there is a god but i choose not to worship and it's not something to debate over</p>
<p>as the God is illogical thingy proved, it's just stupid to debate over an unaswerable question</p>
<p>Why is this in college admissions?</p>
<p>it's not that, the believers are going to say what they have to say and the non believers have their turn and it will get nowhere. The point is whatever you believe in, good for you. have a cookie</p>
<p>I agree with celebrian25. You can't really prove either way.</p>
<p>as many conversations on cc, once you involve only emotions, whatever logic was in the arguement totally leaves and it's just You're wrong! NO you're Wrong!, just a big screaming match. And with the issue of god, of course emotions and a lack of logic are involved</p>
<p>God!
i fell for this potential flame thread hook line and sinker.</p>
<p>be an agnostic, and argue neither side, its the cool way to go :-P</p>
<p>agnostic is the view that they don't really know, right?</p>
<p>Answer me this guys:</p>
<p>According to the laws of physics, everything moves towards chaos. But humankind always seems to be progressive. If there is no God, no mystical force keeping things together, how do you explain this paradox?</p>
<p>See, turning the thread into something that people could try to answer.</p>
<p>The most popular rapper in the world is a white guy, the best golfer is black, The tallest basketball player is chinese, the Swiss hold the American cup, France accuses the US of arrogance, and Germany didn't want to go to war. And you say we're not chaotic? </p>
<p>Anywho, I will say nothing further except: stick to your beliefs, don't try to convince me mine are wrong, and we'll all live a much happier life.</p>
<p>dima - i did some research on that before..i think you're talking about the second law of thermodynamics, which narrow minded fundamentalistsuhh excuse me, creationists, use to disprove evolution..well theres some long complicated explanation for it that you can google, but basically that law only applies to a closed system, and the universe isnt a closed system because it has a lot of energy coming in...or something like that..the explain made more sense so def look for one</p>
<p>Energy coming from where? Some celestial force, perhaps?</p>
<p>Look at me, I'm trying to explain God with physics. Talk about a nerd moment.</p>
<p>I worship the biscotti that I am eating right now.</p>
<p>'s all about the almonds, man.</p>
<p>human kind is not progressive becuase while at first the lifespan of a human being may appear to be violating the laws of entropy (natural chaos) they in fact are not, as proved by decomposition of corpses when human die.
the argument that humans appear to be 'progressing' using the word progressive in a loose sense of the word meaning that humans appear to be advancing. this has nothing to do with the scientific properties of chaos.</p>
<p>that being said, i dont need a scientific justification to believe in god. and by the way, its atheists who believe in no good, agnostics are just unsure of what they believe.</p>
<p>You have to look at the events on a long term scale. Civilization will decline eventually. </p>
<p>I'm thinking of that example where you realize how easy it is to mix salt and pepper, but how impossibly difficult it is to separate them by hand.</p>
<p>So right now we're painstakingly trying to move away from enthropy, but over the course of millions of years, we will fail and fall into chaos again.</p>
<p>Besides, the world is chaotic. Civilization is a temporary effort to stop it, but everything breaks down sooner or later.</p>
<p>Heh...trying to apply entropy in the grand scheme of civilization...it may be a false analogy.</p>
<p>Anyway religion is the opiate of the masses. There...</p>
<p>For whoever said it, you are right about entropy only applying to closed systems. A system can increase in order as long as the universe decreases in order. delta G system + delta G universe = 0 or something to that effect. So trying to use the second law of thermodynamics to disprove evolution...it's kind of amusing...</p>
<p><em>blinks hard</em></p>
<p>I'm not trying to disprove anything, especially not evolution, the evidence of that is so clear - at least in my opinion. Just offer another look at the divine. As for my beliefs, I'll believe what I believe for the simple reason that there's no way to prove me right or wrong. As for the whole falling into chaos thing - why does everyone have to be so pessimistic? Can't we at least pretend we're gonna keep advancing until we form that perfect society we've been striving to acheive?</p>
<p>It is certainly possible. Humans can continue to advance. But it is just a physically inevitable fact that the more we advance and become organized, the more entropy enters the universe (as heat, for example) until finally it could not continue anymore.</p>