God, you people are unbelievable.

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<p>This is truly unreal. I posted a thread with some insight on how difficult and grueling the Exeter experience was, and the pathetic self-promoters that infest this site couldn't help the chance to say: "oh, well Hotchkiss is just as difficult" or "Exeter kids like to whine because it's their culture, they're showing off". As if you knew! You do NOT know half of what you say. It's truly blatant and inconceivable jealousy that must fuel you to feel the need to advertise your own schools at ANY minute chance that presents itself. Not jealousy of Exeter, but of ANY school or program that is discussed, or shows strength. The answer: "my friend's niece went there" is not sufficient to give you insight on the school! </p>

<p>And for the record, I got into every school I applied to -- most of the ones you are talking about (the HADES, as you write in such juvenile, middle school clique fashion). My older brother, the only one of us who did not come to Exeter (considered a Post Graduate year) went to our public high school and is attending Princeton next fall. My sisters are at Caltech and Harvard, while my oldest brother went to Johns Hopkins, Oxford, and then Tuck. Guess what: our father who went to the University of Vermont is still smarter than all of us. It simply does not matter! School is what you make of it. My mother went to Emmanuel College, and I respect her as I do any academic.</p>

<p>STOP acting like you know this or that about a school. STOP accusing Exeter or [boarding school] kids of being smarter or dumber, 'real', or whiners. YOU HAVE NO IDEA! Most of you have never, ever endured an Exeter workload. And unfortunately, you will have to swallow the bitter taste that is Exeter. No matter what you can try to say -- what you WILL undoubtedly try to say, Exeter has the name. It is the name. It is more well known than Hotchkiss or Choate, or Deerfield. Stating on a forum: "Well you simply are incorrect, Saint Paul's is more prestigious," will NOT make it true! </p>

<p>You do not understand the workload that comes with Exeter. I have known three (including my younger sister) who have spent time at both Exeter and Andover. They liked Andover better at times for the SOLE reason that it is much more relaxed with less work, yet retains the academic standard. There is a reason that there have been more suicides at Exeter than at any other boarding school in the country. There is a reason our endowment is so massive. There is a reason that everyone and their mother knows something about 'Exeter' if they are somewhat familiar with the potent slice of Americana that is our private schooling sector.</p>

<p>The thread in question is: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-admissions/720769-some-insight-those-who-may-unaware.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/prep-school-admissions/720769-some-insight-those-who-may-unaware.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The bottom line is that these threads are NOT about you. They are about people offering answers, and posing questions. Reading that YOU think Hotchkiss is the most prestigious school merely makes me feel more deeply my pity for those who feel the need to give their school a boost where no one has asked of it. I tried to convey the general attitude of Exeter, which I, believe it or not, would understand better than you would. All of us understand though, that no matter where we are in the world, upon the mentioning of Exeter, someone will pipe up and ask you about it -- because it's that prestigious. Would I ever have thought I would do this much promoting of my own school? Of course not. But the bottom line is: this is a thread in response to the atrocities of your pathetic outcries for praise. </p>

<p>As I respect all boarding schools, the spite and bitterness that you feel toward Exeter is SEE-THROUGH and childish. Please grow up.</p>

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<p>The only thing that is childish is your rant …</p>

<p>I will let what I said do the talking for me:</p>

<p>“Though I think it is commonly accepted, arguably and very likely correctly, that Exeter has the best Math program I would beg to differ on their science program.”</p>

<p>(As you can see here I acknowledged that exeter has the best math program that does not seem like I was trying to put it down in any way shape or form so i really do not know what you are talking about)</p>

<p>“In no way am I saying that exeter is not “arguably” one of the best schools at science, I am sure it is. I was just providing an example of another school that would “argue” with exeter being the lone school at the top.” </p>

<p>(As you can see here quite clearly if you bothered to read the post all I was saying that there are other schools with arguably equally good science programs)</p>

<p>“I personally think that among schools in general if you are REALLLY into science then your best shot is Bronx High school of science. Now that institution is second to none world wide, out of any schools public or private. It has produced more Noble prize winners in science than all the HADES schools combined.”</p>

<p>(here I provide an example of a school that is better than Exeter AND Hotchkis in science just in case someone is interested and is considering entering a career in science I was offering them information about a school they may not have heard about)</p>

<p>Personally I think it is immature for you to rant on about your siblings IVY education and the fact that you got into all of your schools etc. (I can play that game too but it does not add anything to my argument - or yours - and therefore seems out of place and self laudatory)</p>

<p>"Exeter has the name. It is the name. It is more well known than Hotchkiss or Choate, or Deerfield. " </p>

<p>true but i doubt anyone seriously challenged that. Furthermore what is your point ? How does this point fit in with the general flow of your argument ? Again this seems childish. </p>

<p>“YOU think Hotchkiss is the most prestigious school”</p>

<p>Quote where I said this please. I never ever said that you are putting words in my mouth. I will say now that Exeter is the more prestigious school among the general population i never denied that. But alas your point ? </p>

<p>“You do not understand the workload that comes with Exeter.”</p>

<p>Nor do you know the workload at any of these other schools that you have not been to. </p>

<p>“All of us understand though, that no matter where we are in the world, upon the mentioning of Exeter, someone will pipe up and ask you about it”</p>

<p>Really now ? That’s probably more true for exeter than for any other american school but that does not make it true. </p>

<p>Sounds like you don’t have an argument here. You are arguing against something that no one said … </p>

<p>I believe it is you that should “grow up” or at least join the Exeter debate team and learn to rebut points that are actually made - not points you think were made … right now you just seem very pretentious. We all know Exeter is a great school … Don’t make it look bad with your rants. </p>

<p>“The thread in question is: Some insight for those who may be unaware.”</p>

<p>As everyone on CC knows threads tend to DRIFT meaning that the topic you thought the thread was going to be on is not necessarily the topic that will be discussed by the end of the thread. So the fact that this thread moved from talking about pressure cookers to science is NOT aberrant it is the norm. No one is trying to make the thread about “them” they were just engaging in free flowing discussion. You win no fans for yourself or your school when you call people “pathetic.” </p>

<p>Now to be fair to you, you probably feel like your school is being attacked and feel the need to defend it. That’s perfectly alright, I do that too. What is not okay is to put words in other people’s mouths and attack other schools. Always maintain your decorum no matter what anyone says or does - that is rule number one or people relations. Excessive displays of emotion are normally indicative of excessive weakness of character. </p>

<p>Good day.</p>

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<p>I would read your whole post, but I started skimming after you were talking about HADES being a juvenille middle school clique thing. I’m not trying to be mean here (btw I’m 16), but you sound a lot younger than most of the 8th graders on this board…</p>

<p>The fact that you’re comparing you and your siblings knowledge to that of your parents is ridiculous…I don’t get the point you’re trying to make. I don’t get it, because you’re not making a point. You’re playing out the snobbish attitude that I hope NOT to find at boarding school. If you want to let us know what colleges your siblings went to then just say it, don’t use that weak comparison as an excuse :).</p>

<p>I mean I tried my best to understand what the hell your point is…but I mean it was hard. I personally feel like this was just a long rant due to the fact that you felt intimidated by the responses that recieved. Sorry to break it to you, but the majority of people still posting on this board plan on attending boarding school and are most likely pretty smart. You most likely intimidate no one by your lack-luster attempt at a schooling for all the little middle schoolers on here, nor have you impressed by the ostentatious nature of your childish rant. The fact that you call people on here childish throughout your little temper tantrum is simply ironic. You just sound like a typical spoilt boarding school child (I really don’t know, could be a good thing or could be a bad thing). I do know that all you’ve accomplished by this is playing out a stereotype, good job.</p>

<p>I mean you must not have much friends, what the hell are you doing here at 9:30, shouldn’t you be out and about or at least studying. Nobody likes a snob…</p>

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<p>Loser’s thread. Moderator should delete it.</p>

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<p>I see ultima’s point clear as the first light in the morning. What he began as an important and valuable exposition of the dark side of the school he attends rapidly degenerated into a trivial game of “my school is better than yours.” So trivial. Ultima, my hat is off to you for the courage and candor that you display.</p>

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<p>Alright a couple things.
As an exeter kid I support your telling the critics to shut up, if out of nothing but loyalty. I think the bickering is annoying and self-involved. You did, however, quote me saying that part of the culture at Exeter is to complain. This wasn’t meant in offense to exeter, I can understand it and what just sharing my perception of the school i’m going to in the fall.</p>

<p>As far as everyone immediately promoting their school and bashing the other when someone says something good about their school: what do you expect? This is a forum where people obsess over getting into prestigious schools for months leading up to march 10th. After march 10th people begin to associate their entire identity with the schools they’re going to attend. I think you guys will back me up when I say that the school were going to becomes a huge part of how we think of ourselves. In light of this, I think jumping to the defensive whenever anyone says any other school is good, is a little understandable, while a little petty. </p>

<p>Regardless of whether your opinions are thought of as childish,rude,hypocritical, prophetic, or antagonistic, I think its good that you shared them, it’s productive for improving this board.</p>

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<p>You didn’t really answer anything he said. You threw insults back at him. Don’t criticize him for making poor arguments when your just throwing insults yourself.</p>

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<p>I should have put a comma when I said: “You’re just throwing insults, yourself” I didn’t mean “(at) yourself”</p>

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<p>There is plenty to argue. Valid or not, he made a lot of statements. Instead of just calling them dumb, you should provide counter arguments that hinge on more than insults. I’m not saying your right or wrong, but ultima took the time to write down why he believes the things he does, you should take the time to explain why you disagree especially since your insulting him.</p>

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<p>The OP, if not a ■■■■■, needs to see a mental health professional. Soon.</p>

<p>“I was forced to go to one of the ten best high schools in the world. Woe is me”.</p>

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<p>Istoleyournose, you sound like a pretty smart kid…you cannot possibly defend much of this. This, I can assure you, isn’t exeter bashing. This kid is just throwing out sweeping immature statements that make no sense at all lol. </p>

<p>I mean I know you go to Exeter and all Ultima, doesn’t mean I have to respect your intellectual capabilities. All I can judge you by is what I see here…you’re are not any better than the “juvenille middle schoolers” you’re criticizing. But w.e, I believe FIF put it the best.</p>

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<p>I don’t know much about HADES schools, but I do know that Ultima was simply trying to say the bad side of a seemingly flawless school experience. Bringing up other schools or comparing them is besides the point.</p>

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<p>It’s so funny how Hotchkiss students seem to have inferiority complex. Whatever they post they just have to say something good about it. The reason why he started this thread was because they, especially prezomar, just couldn’t keep the boasting to himself. Ultima can be a little childish, but when he said Exeter had best Math and Science program, did you really have to go all in depth saying how much better Hotchkiss is than Exeter? Come on, Prezomar, you’re already at the school. This is not even an ‘excitement’ for the school you’re about to go to.</p>

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<p>^^ I agree with that, but that’s besides the point. I seriously wonder how much the OP is learning from exeters english program. I know when you’re typing fast it may not all be grammatically correct, but he/she is all over the place. I’m more perplexed than I am anything else to tell you the truth.</p>

<p>From every one being childish, to a list of colleges, to somone’s parents, to suicide rate, and I couldn’t read past that. If you wanted to make a personal attack at hotchkiss and prezomar, do that in PM. I would understand that…and I’m sure prezomar is more than ready to argue with you over PM. (He’s been trained by the world class debating team at hotchkiss…so watch out) :D</p>

<p>Jokes Jokes…</p>

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<p>Hey Baron, I might listen to you more closely if you didn’t have to brag every second of your posts.</p>

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<p>Bickering is fun =D</p>

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<p>I agree with you mpicz :D</p>

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<p>I didn’t think any of us thought boarding school would be this perfect thing. In fact, I’ve been worrying about it all summer. First of all, I’m hoping that people won’t think they understand others well or think they’re more intelligent than they are. Second that the kids aren’t as bad as some of those that I’ve met and that the good ones that I’ve met make up most of the boarding school population. Third that I don’t have difficulty with the workload. Fourth and most importantly, that I get the classes I want.</p>

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<p>Lol of course you ARE going to have difficulty with the workload at any of these schools, that’s what you’re there for; the challenge.</p>

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<p>I have to agree with ruby. Some prep schools are even tougher than college.</p>