<p>I think this is how it works out. DMC gets slightly defensive (as he should) when Duke is ripped as less prestigious than the Ivies. </p>
<p>Dartmouth people get defensive when what they consider is a "lesser" school such as WUSTL is compared to it. </p>
<p>Same idea, different schools.</p>
<p>but duke, wustl, and dartmouth are all the same aside from very slight nuances in scenery...</p>
<p>EXACTLY!!!!!!! WUSTL IS SOOOOOO SWEET! It is not a lesser school. If the WUSTL board was not dead, I would rally them to come to my aid.</p>
<p>hahahaha...10 character limit is making my "haha" more enthusiastic than initially intended</p>
<p>LOL. </p>
<p>(10 characters)</p>
<p>See...I just do that and I have the right amount of LOL required.</p>
<p>genius</p>
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<p>i dont know if this was already posted, i dont really feel like reading through three pages.</p>
<p>i visited dartmouth. the campus was beautiful, the ppl were nice, but the surrounding area was hellish. literally there was a stop and shop and two car dealerships and thats it. it was depressing since dartmouth was my first choice at that point.</p>
<p>then i found out about washu: better in every respect expect for name recognition (unless were talking pre-med students). the people were more welcoming, the campus was AMAZING, and its in st. louis</p>
<p>I had a very similar choice between Dartmouth and Notre Dame; I chose Dartmouth. Even though it means I will probably be able to visit home a few times a year, I just felt it was the right school. Like my situation, except for the proximity to home situation, I see no valid reason not to choose Dartmouth. With a school with a fiercely loyal (and less nerdy than some comparable schools) student body, community feel, and what some have called "arguably the the best undergrad education in the country", how can you go wrong? If you are, as I assume, a transfer student, the icing on the cake is that I've heard that Dartmouth transfers are easily assimilated into the student body.</p>
<p>Go Big Green!</p>
<p>LOL You could be still talking about Notre Dame. haha</p>
<p>You made a good choice though. Kind of a no brainer really.</p>
<p>This is stupid. DMC, as much as I love you as a fellow Dukie, I don't think you know what you're talking about when you say
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"Moreover, the topic is Wash U med program, and yes....it is pretty much ownage over Dartmouth or almost any other school for that matter (exceptions being Harvard and JHU probably)."
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Just look at how the applicants to HMS, the best medical school in the nation, do and what institutions they're from. Even though UCLA, Berkeley, Cornell, Penn, and Hopkins are in the top seven in terms of number of applicants, they aren't in the top six in terms of offers of admission. On the other hand, Duke and Princeton are #9 and #10, respectively, vis-a-vis number of applicants, and are top-5 in terms of number of acceptances. MIT isn't even top-10 for number of applicants but is ranked #6 in terms of acceptances. Wash U is nowhere on either list. Neither is Dartmouth, for that matter. Nobody can make the argument that this is because Wash U undergrads choose to go to Wash U med school because these are acceptances we're talking about, not matriculants, and someone who thinks he's got a chance at Wash U will sure as hell toss in an app to Harvard for ****s and giggles.</p>
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In terms of the distribution of colleges among the HMS applicant pool, Harvard led the way, with UCLA, Berkeley, Stanford, Yale, Cornell, Penn, Hopkins, Duke, and Princeton rounding out the top 10. Applicants from Harvard also led the offers, followed by Yale, Princeton, Stanford, Duke, and MIT.
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<p>DMC--it was not an easy choice. It pretty much came down to, given what I wanted to do in college, what school would be best for me? If I were a huge football fan who wanted to go into law, Notre Dame probably would have been the place for me. Being that I'm more outdoorsy and planning on med school, Dartmouth is the place.</p>
<p>I understand this. However, if I went to Wash U, I most certainly would opt to stay their for its med program. But that is just me. I just think there are extenuating circumstances as to the reason why there class is not filling out the Harvard Med program. I just don't see (on avg.) why it would be THAT beneficial to not go to Wash U for grad school in medicine. however, you can own me all day in business and law school admit rates, because WUSTL just aren't up to par yet. They are slowly getting better though.</p>
<p>Edit: To Chris:
Yeah, I would have killed you if you did not go to Dartmouth. LOL</p>
<p>However, if I went to Wash U, I most certainly would opt to stay their for its med program.
Of course you would Dev, and then I suppose in your mind so should everyone else; but wait sanity looms:
But that is just me.</p>
<p>Agreed! And it comes full circle. Its just you.
However it makes statements like:
and yes....it is pretty much ownage over Dartmouth seem mean spirited and facile. No one here, in the d-forum, claimed dartmouth owns WUSL.
The only point made in this, another of your unremitting and covert denunciations of dartmouth (buyers remorse?), is that WUSL has a good medical school, nay, a great Med school; but, no one disagreed with you:
not Luckystar41,
not Meltingsnow,
not Slipper,
not Fountain,
not incollege88,
not me,
it is undoubtedly a great MED-SCHOOL. But that was not the issue. The issue was Pre-med. Undergrad. Frankly, like you, I have no idea which is better at pre-med
but then, I dont say that I do
certainly not adamantly, as you feel free and driven to do.
Then there is this:
I just think there are extenuating circumstances as to the reason why there class [WUSL] is not filling out the Harvard Med program.
So you do--so what? Not all of your hunches need to be defended and enforced ad nauseum in your feigning attempts to admit the truth, as you say.
More on dartmouth:
yet people think I have some vendetta against it.
Have you considered the possibility that people may be right and you may be mechanically self-deluding? I dont know, check yourself: Why do people think that you have some vendetta against
Dartmouth? Gee, Hmmm.
Could it be it is because you are all over the dartmouth board making good on your claim that
Dartmouth has cons like any other school, it's just that I am one of the few who like to admit it.
And like to admit it you do; often enough manufacturing the con, it might be said, as in this thread.
Youve attacked quite a number dartmouth 09ers, including me, even called me some uncalled for and nasty names (God, you're an ***hole, Kalidescope) on the dartmouth board.
Is there a point to all this? There are general forums. Most people look to the forums of individual schools for pro-actively positive and good-humored assessments of the school they are interested in--the enthusiasm, school spirit and specific questions--and to the general forums for more controversial/critical views: seems to work that way, anyhow. I see your posts there often enough--enjoy most of em.
Duke is a very good school, you should be happy enough with it to not feed the need to run down the school you passed-up for Duke on its own board. Many others have done the same without the buyers remorse you seem to be beset with. I could name quite a number of them. They post to stay in touch, not to hit & run.</p>
<p>DMC, let the road rise to meet you. Peace, brother.</p>
<p>as an outsider just coming across this board, before i express my opinion on dartmouth, let me say to dmc... as far as your initial question about whether to attend dartmouth or wash u., it seems like you've already made your decision. i have a sneaking suspicion that you only started this thread to find people to argue with about the superiority of wash u. you obviously want to go there since you consistently talk about how much better it is than dartmouth, and seemingly, anywhere else. so why don't you end this thread now since you've already decided? </p>
<p>now, my dad went to dartmouth and based on what he's told me and the many alumnus that i've met...it's a damn good school. i've never heard of wash u... which might say something. but dartmouth is an excellent school, which extremely smart and dedicated students and teachers.</p>
<p>I'm from Germany and I have never heard from Dartmouth before but from WashU.
The reason is, that I'm working on the same topic, as an eminently respectable physics workgroup at WashU.
My point is, that It only depends on the people you ask! Is it so important for you, that normal people know your university? Why? To blow up your ego? You can be sure that people who hire you know which schools are good and which not.</p>
<p>Kalidescope summed it up nicely.</p>
<p>I agree Salia, nicely done Kal.</p>
<p>Kaleidoscope, yes I am formulating my answers based on my own opinions. However, I also presented hard facts to back up WUSTL's med program. No one else here has stated anything save for their own preconceived notions about both schools. It's a message board. The OP asked a question, and we gave our opinions. It is as simple as that.</p>
<p>":covert denunciations of dartmouth (buyers remorse?)"
Are you kidding? I lose count on how many times I have PRAISED Dartmouth, buddy.</p>
<p>"I have no idea which is better at pre-med
but then, I dont say that I do
certainly not adamantly, as you feel free and driven to do."
Thing is, I beleive I DO know which is better at premed. I was merely suggesting why Wash U would be much better for the premed track. However, I even said that Dartmouth would be better for pretty much anything else. I cannot make that clear enough. </p>
<p>Finally, I apologize for my vituperative words to you earlier, Kaleidoscope. But you shot first that time. I think I should have said this..."I don't know why meltingsnow, Kaleidoscope, and FountainSiren think that I hate Dartmouth." Others on this board have been more than helpful in pointing out Dartmouth in a more realistic light (i.e. lawyerdad, sybbie, slipper etc.) Have fun at Dartmouth!</p>
<p>Edit: poufifiedbumbum (lol nice name), I DID NOT START THIS THREAD. LOL
To JusA: The question at hand was not whether or not people knew these schools internationally, but rather the strength of each school's premed program. I apologize for making sweeping generalizatons about Wash U med (i.e "ownage"), because I, quite frankly, did not think it would be taken so seriously. I just meant to say that if you want a top 3 med program, go to Wash U. I also am confused in the sense that I am the only one who has evidence to back what I am saying (look on pg. 2). If Dartmouth has a better med program, please tell me. I could easily be wrong. Dartmouth is pretty awesome in business internships though (better than Duke, Northwestern, etc.), in case the OP is not absolutely sure on med.</p>
<p>The thing with med is honestly the strength of the med schools correlation to the strength of the undergrad program is dubious at best. Wash U is a great school, but I personally think Dartmouth beats it though as an overall academic/ social experience. Penn has a top 4 med school but that doesnt mean too much for its premeds as compared to the other Ivies. But no worries DMC, its all good.</p>
<p>Yeah, slipper I agree with that wholeheartedly. DARTMOUTH IS THE BETTER OVERALL SCHOOL WITHOUT QUESTION.</p>