<p>i want to go to Berkley, but im also applying to UCLA. say if i get accepted to UCLA,
will i have a higher chance to transfer to berkley or is it same for all schools? hypotheetically, i get the same grades from UBC and UCLA</p>
<p>Wheres UBC? That a new school?</p>
<p>University of British Columbia? ;)</p>
<p>OP - I think you meant UCB*</p>
<p>Anyway, it isn’t necessarily easy to transfer but it is “easier” because UCLA is academically more challenging than some of the other UC schools like Santa Cruz etc. - not to say that UCSC isn’t good, its a great school :)</p>
<p>The decision process is a tricky one. You never know what sort of class the committee is looking to build for any particular year. Many people get accepted to Berkeley but rejected by UCLA and vice versa. I know that this isn’t going to help you sleep any better but just do your best on the application and try to forget about it until April (although I remember worrying endlessly myself… so that may not be physically possible) (:</p>
<p>UBC University of British Columbia.</p>
<p>I am saying will i have a higher chance to transfer to UC Berkley if i was already in UCLA, since they are both in the UC system. OR the chance is pretty much the same for any good college?</p>
<p>@jimyjim: I think that there might be a language issue with your post. Please be specific when answering these questions.</p>
<p>1) Are you a currently a high school (secondary) student?
2) Are you asking if you spend your first 2 years at UCLA (if accepted) you would have a good chance of transferring to UC Berkeley?
3) Are you currently a Canadian citizen or a foreign national (non-U.S. citizen) living in Canada or the U.S.?</p>
<p>If your answers to 1 and 2 are ‘yes’, you would need to have a compelling reason to request transfer from UCLA to UC Berkeley. It is easier to transfer from a community college (although it is not impossible as many UC-to-UC transfers can already attest).</p>
<p>i am currently a chinese canadian living in China right now, attending high school. I am applying to UCLA and UC Berkley. UBC (university of british columbia) is my back up school in canada. Since UBC and UCLA are ranked similar, I would go to UBC since it is 3 time cheaper. </p>
<p>However, i was wondering if i go to UCLA, will I have a much higher chance of transfering to UC Berkley than if i went to UBC and tried to transfer?</p>
<p>Are UBC and UCLA ranked similarly? The standard ranking is the U.S. News one, but it only covers U.S. schools. </p>
<p>I tend to think that UCLA has more prestige simply because it is better known, but then, I’m from Southern California. :-)</p>
<p>its berkeley. To answer your question, you’d have a higher chance of transferring from a UC than from a school from out of the country.</p>
<p>If you really want to graduate from Berkeley, but you apply to UC Berkeley, the University of British Columbia(UBC) and UCLA and are accepted only at UCLA and UBC as a freshman than you have a better chance of transferring to UCB as a junior if you go to UCLA since UC to UC transfers have some priority over transfer applicants from non-UC four year colleges. By far the highest priority for admission as a junior transfer student is given to applicants from California Community Colleges (CCCs). About 90% of the transfer applicants accepted by UC Berkeley are applicants from CCCs. Therefore, if you do not get accepted at UCB as a freshman but your only acceptable outcome is a degree from Berkeley, even if you are accepted at UCLA, you would have a better chance of transferring to Berkeley if you decline the offer of admission from UCLA and instead enroll in a CCC for two years and then apply from the CCC to UC Berkeley as a junior transfer student.</p>
<p>It’s just as Lemaitre1 put it!</p>
<p>why do they like community colleges??? i heard only 8% of the people there go to Universities…
what do you mean if i don’t get accepted from Berkley but go to UCLA and still have a berkley degree? </p>
<p>thanks…</p>
<p>@jimyjim: What Lemaitre1 is saying is that, if you don’t get accepted into UC Berkeley directly, you should choose UCLA over the University of British Columbia, because it is far easier to transfer from one UC to another UC than it is to transfer from a foreign institution.</p>
<p>Lemaitre1 is ALSO saying that, if you want to increase your chances of getting a transfer to UC Berkeley even more, you should reject any offers from the University of British Columbia AND UCLA. Instead, you should move to California and attend a community college since they (California community colleges) have the highest percentage of successful transfers to UC Berkeley (90% by Lemaitre1’s reckoning).</p>
<p>jimyjim: Despite the usual stereotype surrounding community colleges, the system in California is far better than decent. Many of the professors I personally had were graduates with masters and PhDs from the various UCs as well as well-known universities such as Harvard.</p>
<p>Why do the UCs prefer transfers from CCCs? Because the entire system is designed to be a feeder for the UCs and CSUs. Priority is given over 4-year university transfers because those students have an opportunity to finish their bachelors where as a transfer from a CCC does not. For California residents, the CCC to UC or CSU route saves a lot of money. If you want to attend UCB and are not accepted, then your best option would be to attend a CCC and transfer.</p>
<p>Truth be told, though, you might as well attend a private school based on what UCB and UCLA cost for non-residents. $50k+ a year is a lot just to go to a public school. Will your parents be able to even afford this amount? $200k+ for four years is a lot of money for just an undergrad degree. Why not save attending a more expensive institution for graduate studies? You could go to UBC (which you say costs three times less than the cost of a UC) for undergrad and then apply to UCB and UCLA for graduate work.</p>
<p>i think i get what the op was TRYING to say. i think he was wondering if berk will look at him more favorably if he was accepted by ucla. the answer is no.</p>
<p>also, the chances transferring 4year->UC is worse than 2year transfers. this is mainly bc 4yrs already have a school at which they can get a bachelor’s, as opposed to jc’s, who can not. at least that’s how counselors always explained it to me.</p>
<p>People always say you alway get rejected from UCLA and UCB, accepted to UCLA and UCB, or denied and accepted from one or the other. If you are accepted to UCLA, I don’t think UCB will determine their admission based on that (if that’s what you’re asking)</p>
<p>for Undergrad UBC > UCLA anyways unless want to pay up the yin yang just for the sun.
UCLA for undergrad is not worth out of state tuition for a public university. If you are a Canadian resident then the decision should be a no brainer for undergraduate study. Even if you went the CCC route, it would take a year for residency, and nearly all the public colleges in California are running on a shoe string budget and majorly impacted. It would not be a prudent decision.</p>
<p>yeah dude, go to UBC or go to CCC and try your luck. You will have to pay non-resident tuition for your stay in california though, unless you have a green card or citizenship. by the way, you would have to get a visa, too. SOooo… yeah</p>
<p>I can end this disccussion really fast.</p>
<p>UCLA (Terence Tao) > Berekely (???)</p>
<p>:) If you majoring in Math that is.</p>