Good biology programs?

<p>Could someone help me narrow my list of 20 schools to the ones with the best biology/premed programs? (I'd prefer around 10-12 schools) Thanks in advance!</p>

<p>brown
cal tech
cornell
duke
harvard
johns hopkins
MIT
northwestern
stanford
berkeley
UCLA
wesleyan
harvey mudd
NYU
Rice
UCSD
Washington university in st louis
wellesley
USC
UC Davis (my absolute safety)</p>

<p>drop ucd,usc,ucsd,nyu,and add Davidson and William and Mary. Two of the best pre med LAC in the country.</p>

<p>There is no good answer to your question until you determine your objectives and interests, i.e. what kind of Biology interests you? Environmental, Biotechnology, Zoology, Ecology, Evolutionary, Natural Resources/Wildlife conservation?</p>

<p>Many major universities maintain good Biological Sciences departments and excel in one or more branches. The larger state universities tend to be stronger in Organismal and Zoololgy (in things such as Invertebrate Zoology, for example) and in Natural Resources conservation as well. Many small liberal art college have excellent resources (laboratories) also.</p>

<p>I apologize, I didn't see the "pre med" reference.</p>

<p>Carleton and middlebury?</p>

<p>Keep in mind that, in earning a seat in medical school, a lot depends upon the placement counseling you get in your pre-med program. Sure, MCAT scores and overal GPA are critical, but most applicants come to the process with good MCAT scores and high grades. A college with a good placement record has counselors/deans that are familiar with the nuances of med school admissions. For example, some med schools are not particularly concerned about a major in the sciences. Of course they want to see good grades in the basics (Organic Chemistry, Genetics, Calculus) but some schools are quite interested in applicants who have majored in subjects other than the life sciences.</p>

<p>Gourman Report undergraduate biology ranking </p>

<p>Biology rankings from Gourman Report
Caltech
MIT
Yale
Harvard
Wisconsin
UC San Diego
UC Berkeley
U Colorado
Columbia
Stanford
U Washington
U Chicago
Duke
Wash U St Louis
UCLA
U Michigan
Cornell
U Penn
Purdue
Indiana U
UNC Chapel Hill
U Utah
Johns Hopkins
Northwestern
Princeton
UC Irvine
Notre Dame
UC Santa Barbara
UVA
Brown
U Illinois Urbana Champaign
U Pittsburgh
Vanderbilt
U Oregon
SUNY Stony Brook
U Rochester
Tufts
U Minnesota
SUNY Buffalo
U Texas Austin
Florida State
Michigan State
USC
U Connecticut
UC Riverside
Rice
Iowa State
SUNY Albany
Case Western
Boston U
Ohio State
NYU
U Iowa
Penn State
Emory
Brandeis
U Kansas
Rutgers New Brunswick
Tulane
US Air Force Academy
U Missouri Columbia</p>

<p>LACs for bio from Rugg's
Amherst
Bowdoin
Bryn Mawr
Bucknell
Carleton
Claremont McKenna
Colby
Colgate
Colorado C
Dickinson
Franklin & Marshall
Gettysburg
Hamilton
Harvey Mudd
Haverford
Holy Cross
Kalamazoo
kenyon
Lafayette
Lawrence
Macalester
Middleburyt
Mt Holyoke
Occidental
Pitzer
Reed
Rhodes
Smith
St Olaf
St Mary's (MD)
Swarthmore
Trinity (CT)
Vassar
Wellesley
Wesleyan
Wheaton (IL)
Whitman
Williams</p>

<p>also U of Rochester, Johns Hopkins</p>

<p>Cornell University just received $400 million gift for new biology building and biology education. Building is now under construction.</p>

<p>To follow up on LakeWashington's post b/c it's pretty good:</p>

<p>Med schools care far more about WHAT you did in undergrad rather then WHERE you did it. Go to the school where you'll find the most success emotionally, physically, academically and socially (with good balance between the areas...everyone knows partying too much is bad for you, but so is going to far in the other direction). </p>

<p>Now that isn't to say that where you go to school doesn't matter, because there are certainly places that are better for pre-meds than others...the problem is that there's no list, and no rankings because the things that make a school good for pre-med are tough to define - like pre-med advising (since that may come down to a single advisor at a smaller school), and the opportunities available to get involved on campus, in the community, doing research or shadowing physicians. Those are impossible to quantify or qualify. That's why you should focus on fit, and then make sure you are working hard to find the opportunities you need in order to be a successful applicant.</p>

<p>thanks everyone</p>

<p>Duke, Tufts, Holy Cross, JHU.</p>