<p>Let's start up a post with contributions about pre-med or science related programs that are good at universitites that aren't ivy like. Please include state schools as well and explain your selection if you want (i'd like to apologize if this idea was already started. if it already did, will someone direct me to that thread? so i can go there and end this one? THANKS)</p>
<p>My personal selectioN:</p>
<p>John Hopkins, great med school, but also good undergrad, with great research opportunities</p>
<p>Wesleyan, liberal arts, good scicence programs, but limited research opportunities on campus</p>
<p>Penn State, good chemistry program, lots of funding, lots of research opportunities on campus</p>
<p>keep the list going...</p>